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Ban on wire transfers by illegals proposed
WorldNetDaily ^ | 03/06/2006 | James Lambert

Posted on 03/06/2006 1:12:39 PM PST by Impeach98

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To: mlc9852

???


41 posted on 03/06/2006 1:36:11 PM PST by The SISU kid (I have seen the future (but I signed a nondisclosure))
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I understand your sarcasm, but again, while there is the sometimes-seen "hey, Mister, will you buy me a 6-pack of beer" there is not a major network of businesses of adults buying cigarettes and tobacco for minors.

You expect there to be a strong financial mob of hush hush money transfer third parties to spring up? Sure, there might be some, but it will be the exception not the rule. Western Union won't be opening up a subsidiary in the Yellow Pages advertising "we'll match you up with a U.S. citizen to wire money for you and all your illegal alien friends! Se Habla Espanol!"

42 posted on 03/06/2006 1:36:33 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: MineralMan

"Shocking, isn't it? [grin]"

It's becoming less so.:)


43 posted on 03/06/2006 1:36:37 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Sometimes, I wonder whether a proposed measure to curb illegal immigration is actually intended to curb illegal immigration, or to provide less-than-honest folks a way to make money off of illegal immigration. "


Hmm...or just stupidity. I think that putting out some effort at the borders to stop entry, along with deporting every illegal that shows up wherever they show up would work a lot better than this piddly messing around with wire transfers. But, hey, what do I know?


44 posted on 03/06/2006 1:36:47 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Impeach98

Why not a ban on illegals?


45 posted on 03/06/2006 1:37:05 PM PST by KoRn
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To: mlc9852

The owners are NOT free to sell someone else. They face fines, penalties and can be shut down and lose their license for repeated offenses.


46 posted on 03/06/2006 1:37:12 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: The SISU kid

" Because when George goes to pay his gardener, his maid, the guy he hired on the street to pour cement for his back patio"

That accounts for 3 illegals - what about the rest of them?


47 posted on 03/06/2006 1:37:38 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Impeach98
You may be onto something. Vincente might decide to play illegal immigration ball after all. My head hurts just trying to think about all of the ramifications.
48 posted on 03/06/2006 1:37:45 PM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: Impeach98

Maybe but it doesn't happen here. Just the clerks are charged. I've seen it happen several times.


49 posted on 03/06/2006 1:38:21 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Impeach98

STUPID!

How the heck do you prove the transferee is an illegal? Or are we going to ASSUME the transfer is illegal until you produce your Birth Certificate, Passport, etc.?


50 posted on 03/06/2006 1:38:43 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Impeach98

Tax these transfers, and tax them heavily.


51 posted on 03/06/2006 1:39:08 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: mlc9852
Try this Google and read about the stores that lose their license to sell alcohol for breaking the law. No money transfer place will want this to happen:

Google: Lose License for selling alcohol to minors.

52 posted on 03/06/2006 1:39:19 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: mlc9852

I think the key point is there is no silver bullet for ending illegal immigration.

A lot of the different proposals have to be enacted, from a real barrier fence, to more employer sanctions, to a realistic guest worker program, to ideas making it harder to benefit from illegal immigration -- such as denying driver licenses and prohibiting wire transfers.

It all helps. And we need all the help we can get.


53 posted on 03/06/2006 1:39:21 PM PST by RWGuy
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54 posted on 03/06/2006 1:39:37 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Little Ray

You produce your drivers license, VISA, passport, etc... just like you have to have ID to cash a check at a bank.


55 posted on 03/06/2006 1:40:09 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Little Ray

Look in your wallet. My guess is that you have a drivers license. Not that tough. You probably have even used it to cash a check.


56 posted on 03/06/2006 1:40:24 PM PST by RWGuy
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To: Mamzelle

You can't tax them. Three states have proposed that (Georgia passed them). You then legitimize illegal immigration forever and governments have an incentive NOT to secure the border.


57 posted on 03/06/2006 1:40:48 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Illegal aliens can still open bank accounts at many banks by using a Matricula Consular card as identification.

Banning illegal aliens from wiring money would likely just change how they send money back home.

I'm also curious how they would expect the wire companies to verify that their customers are in the country legally.

This might be possible once States start requiring that people prove they are in the country legally before getting a drivers license, but until that happens, it's going to be very difficult for a wire transfer company to enforce this.

I would support legislation that would require a drivers license that conforms with the Real Id Act to send wire transfers or open a bank account, but until the Real Id Act really goes into effect, I'm not sure this is really practical to enforce.

I like the idea in general, I'm just not sure it can be implemented yet.

58 posted on 03/06/2006 1:40:51 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Impeach98

How bout we make it illegal to give them money in the first place? Oh yeah it already is. Ok how about we enforce the laws. The only way they will go or (at least fewer will come) is if there is no money for them here in the first place..


59 posted on 03/06/2006 1:41:44 PM PST by jjw
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To: Impeach98
You don't legitimize illegals by taxing their transfers any more than you'd legitimize by taxing their groceries--

This is not an income tax.

60 posted on 03/06/2006 1:42:24 PM PST by Mamzelle
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