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Symposium: To Rape an Unveiled Woman
Frontpage Magazine ^
| 07 Mar 06
Posted on 03/07/2006 8:22:42 AM PST by rellimpank
A Muslim rape epidemic in sweeping over Europe -- and over many other nations host to immigrants from the Islamic world. The direct connection between the rapes and Islam is irrefutable, as Muslims are significantly overrepresented among convicted rapists and rape suspects. The Muslim perpetrators themselves boast that there crime is justified since their victims were, among other things, not properly veiled.
What is the psychology here? What is the significance of this epidemic? And how do we face it when our own feminists, with a few exceptions, are deafingly silent about it?
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; rape; religionofrape; rop; trop
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--long but important--
To: rellimpank
Western feminists keep silent because they are not interested in the general problem but rather concentrate on clutching to their few elitarian privileges, mainly in business. This is so true.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:25:23 AM PST
by
ozoneliar
("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
To: ozoneliar
"This is so true." I think this is an improper diagnosis. Professional feminists are firstly and foremost leftists. If there is a conflict between women and leftism, leftism always wins.
I think the reason professional feminists (read: Leftist of the female gender (tm)) don't stand up to Islam is that they have the same goal.
The destruction of Western Civilization.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:30:09 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(The Prophet Muhammed, Piss Be Upon Him)
To: rellimpank
It may sound harsh, but the distinction between "fertilizing" and "punishing" a woman is evident. On the one hand you have sexuality as a tool serving the expansion of Islam, and on the other hand there is sexuality as a weapon against disobedient and non-Muslim women, both categorized as "unbelievers". Against them jihad is the duty, and what to do with women "conquered" in jihad, this may be read in the Qur'an: they become slaves to be used by the victors. Ain't multiculturalism grand?
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:30:14 AM PST
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: rellimpank
This type of behavior has been a problem for decades in Europe. Grabbing and groping of Western women, for example. Or groups of young Muslim men surrounding a woman and then trying to rip her clothes off and/or drag her down an alley. Then of course there's always been the vulgar comments and tongue movements on the lower end of the scale.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:31:01 AM PST
by
KJC1
(Getting the facts before flipping out is generally a sound idea)
To: rellimpank
This is a bit too sophisticated for me. I can think of a few ways to attack this problem and none of them require a symposium.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:31:50 AM PST
by
Caveman Lawyer
(Cluckin' defiance)
To: rellimpank
Quite a lot of high sounding words. These observers are clearly better educated than me.
The problem is actually this -- the perpetrators are animals. They need to be dealt with accordingly.
Their crude mentality is no better than a psychosis. Their backwards little society needs to be knocked down and demolished.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:32:06 AM PST
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: rellimpank
From the article:

Courtesy of the religion of peace.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:35:06 AM PST
by
KJC1
(Getting the facts before flipping out is generally a sound idea)
To: BenLurkin
They need to be dealt with accordingly. If they raped a Muslim woman, I feel sure they would be dealt with within their community. But if they rape the infidel women the courts will give them the usual wrist slap. True. They need to be dealt with accordingly.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:38:41 AM PST
by
oyez
(Appeasement is insanity)
To: ozoneliar
I do not think the radical feminists are afraid of being next. From my study of the Left they crave to be next and that is why they support these dark forces. They yearn to submit to the dark forces of totalitarianism and even to be devoured by them. It is the same death-wish virus that motivated many Western communists to go to Stalinist Russia to supposedly build communism, when they actually only went to their deaths, giving their lives for an idea that butchered them.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:38:54 AM PST
by
Ouderkirk
(Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
To: rellimpank
Catch and hang the rapist by pig gut as they are stuffed with pigs blood. If you believe in HATE crime this is it. If you are not Islamic then you will be raped, so get your berkas out.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:41:08 AM PST
by
YOUGOTIT
To: rellimpank
Telling point:
As for the Western feminists in academe who have completely sold out to political correctness, they too remain clueless as to what their behavior tells us about themselves. They function as another fused family who must go to extreme lengths to defend these male rapists as well. I would assume that at some level these feminists must really be terrified because if they were to take a hard look, they would have to admit to themselves that they might be next.
FP: I think you have hit the nail on the head, but I do not think the radical feminists are afraid of being next. From my study of the Left they crave to be next and that is why they support these dark forces. They yearn to submit to the dark forces of totalitarianism and even to be devoured by them. It is the same death-wish virus that motivated many Western communists to go to Stalinist Russia to supposedly build communism, when they actually only went to their deaths, giving their lives for an idea that butchered them.
The goat herder lovers don't love Islam they hate themselves and their societies and want them destroyed. This is said frequently here but many even on FR don't really believe the depth of radiclib hatred of the US and it's institutions and people.
To: oyez
If they raped a Muslim woman, I feel sure they would be dealt with within their community. Ummm, only if there are enough male muslim witnesses willing to say it was rape. Otherwise, the muslim woman would be killed by her male relatives to preserve her family's honor...
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:42:51 AM PST
by
Kay Ludlow
(Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
To: rellimpank
And how do we face it when our own feminists, with a few exceptions, are deafingly silent about it? The "feminist" organizations only care about promoting a political agenda to empower themselves. Attacking muslim rapists wouldn't further their agenda, so they could care less. These people don't actually care about women and "women's issues" one bit.
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:43:13 AM PST
by
narby
(Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
To: rellimpank
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:47:03 AM PST
by
Issaquahking
(Islam...OTM illegals committing the crimes Americans refuse to do...)
To: narby
Muslims are politically correct so you have to overlook the fact they rape unveiled women. Excusing these horrible crimes falls under the category of "multicultural" understanding. Really, I don't know how the feminazis live with themselves when they put women's rights second to PC.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
03/07/2006 8:48:38 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: rellimpank
I didn't read the whole article but here is my take.
For some reason muslim men think it is shameful when they are sexually aroused by any woman. Therefore they want their women to hide behind a veil.
If a woman isn't hidden and they are aroused, they blame the woman and sometimes rape her. In other words, its the victims fault.
To: 2banana
Also it is not just in brutalizing Moslem woman that the goat f*ckers make themselves feel important. Woman of any other confession who are unfortunate enough to live in the lands of the Religion of Piece are at risk to be kidnapped to be turned into sex slaves or forcible converts and 'wives' as this article shows:
Egypt - Thursday February 23, 2006
MISSING WOMAN CONTACTS FAMILY FOR HELP
Kidnapped Christian refutes police claims that she ran away to convert to Islam.
Theresa Ghattass Kamal
February 23 (Compass) Missing for over a month, a young Christian woman has telephoned her relatives and reported being imprisoned in a Cairo apartment while facing pressure to convert to Islam.
Last seen in the village of El-Saff 30 miles south of Cairo on January 3, Theresa Ghattass Kamal briefly contacted her aunt on January 24. She told her aunt that she had not yet succumbed to her unknown captors demands that she become a Muslim, her brother Saeed Ghattass Kamal told Compass.
Her phone call contradicted earlier police statements that she had converted to Islam voluntarily and did not want to see her family again. Police made the claims last month in the wake of a three-day protest by clergy and lay members of the Coptic Orthodox church.
Further investigation by Saeed Kamal revealed that no official records of his sisters conversion existed at Cairos Al-Azhar Islamic center. Egyptian law requires that all conversions be registered at Al-Azhar and then validated with the security police, the State Security Investigation (SSI).
The Kamal family traced the origination point of the 19-year-old womans call to an apartment in Cairos Shubra district owned by Muslim Mostafa Mahmood Ali.
A local priest who asked not to be named for security reasons characterized Alis house as a dangerous place, full of fundamentalists.
Saeed Kamal and a Shubra diocesan lawyer immediately reported Ali to the Shubra branch of the SSI. When the Christian returned on January 30, police told him over a waiting room telephone that they had interrogated Ali and that he did not have the Christian woman. Police refused to meet with Saeed Kamal in person.
Disappearance
Originally from Wadi El-Natroun 50 miles northwest of Cairo, Theresa Kamal, 19, was living in a church-owned apartment for women in Giza and taking courses at the Secretarial Academy in old Cairo. Theresas father converted to Islam in 1995, and her mother died in 2003, leaving her and her four adult siblings on their own.
On January 3, she visited Coptic Orthodox priest Bavley William in the village of El-Saff and asked for his help in renewing her national and student identity cards. She had lost the documents while riding on a public bus.
William encouraged the Christian woman to return to Wadi El-Natroun to apply for her ID and gave her some money to help cover the expense. Theresa Kamal then called her brother and told him she would return home no later than the morning of January 5.
When his sister had not returned home by January 6, Saeed Kamal traveled to Giza and El-Saff to find her. Police in both cities refused to file a missing person report, telling him to return to Wadi El-Natroun to report his sisters disappearance.
In a January 10 report of the Christian womans disappearance, Wadi El-Natroun police stated that they would first request a report from the Bureau of Investigation about this event.
Fearing continued government inaction, 150 Christians, including three Coptic Orthodox priests, began a three-day, peaceful protest on January 11 outside the village police station. Led by priest Yahnoss Kama, parish priest Botross of Wadi El-Natroun, and parish priest Bavley of Khatatba City, the local Orthodox congregation demanded the return of Theresa Kamal.
On the third day, SSI officer Tarek Haykal promised the protestors that Kamal would be returned to her family, and that they could meet her at his office in Demnhoor, the provincial capital of Buhayrah, on January 17. Claiming to speak on orders from Hassan Abdul Rahman, the head of the SSI in Cairo, Haykal also threatened to arrest the three priests if they did not disperse immediately.
But according to Saeed Kamal, at the January 17 meeting officer Haykal cursed and insulted him and then kicked him out of the office. Haykal then told the two Demnhoor parish priests accompanying the Christian man that Theresa had converted to Islam on the day of her disappearance and that she refused to return to her family.
Haykal said he would schedule a meeting between Theresa Kamal and a priest, a mandatory prerequisite for legal conversion in Egypt.
Upon checking conversion records at all Al-Azhar Islamic center and at Cairo and Giza security directorates, Saeed Kamal discovered that his sisters supposed conversion had never taken place.
Police Complicity
Reports of kidnappings and the forced conversion of Christian girls are common among Egypts Coptic community. Some Christian girls romanced by young Muslim men voluntarily leave their families and convert to Islam in order to escape poverty and unhappy family situations.
But there have been credible reports that government authorities have failed to sufficiently cooperate with Christian families seeking to regain custody of their daughters, the U.S. State Department said in its latest annual International Religious Freedom Report on Egypt.
Without police cooperation, families find it difficult to verify the motives for each conversion. Unless the convert is under 18, the legal age for conversion, police can refuse to recover the missing woman by claiming that she does not want to see her family.
Kamals situation is unusual in that she was able to contact her family and deny reports of willful conversion. It has been easier than usual to see police complicity in this case, because Theresa was able to tell her aunt that she is in the place where she was phoning from, one Cairo-based lawyer commented. But all that the officers did in response was to inform her brother that she was not there.
Coptic Christians make up at least 10 percent of the Egyptian population. While it is illegal for Egypts Muslims to convert to Christianity, "kidnap conversions" to Islam have long been the subject of debate in the country.
In December 2004, thousands of Coptic Christians in Cairo protested when Wafaa Constantin, the wife of an Orthodox priest in Bahayrah province, supposedly converted to Islam and eloped with a Muslim man. Constantin was returned to church custody by Egyptian security forces.
To: oyez; Caveman Lawyer
Let me be clear. They need to be executed -- preferably with bullets dipped in bacon grease.
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posted on
03/07/2006 9:21:25 AM PST
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: BenLurkin
Recently some US soldiers reacted to being ambushed by goat f*ckers in Afghanistan by burning the remains of two defunct goat f*ckers. There was a big uproar and the US military hierarchy promises to deal sternly with the perpetrators even though the Islamos knew exactly why such a thing was done.
I explained to my dear wife who is as Oprafied as many American middle class housewives are, that burning goat f*cker remains was an excellent bit of psychological warfare since Islamos are banned from entering their Happy Hunting Ground if they are in pieces or ashes. Deny these pos the purchase of paradise through terrorism is an excellent tactic. However, you will get the same kind of pissing and moaning I got from my spouse if it is proposed. "It's inhuman, barbaric, and just plain mean." is the mindset you encounter.
Until we as a people disabuse ourselves of the mushhead notions that the wealth and security of this country have provided and come to ENJOY killing these pos and do everything in our power to publicly deny them the rewards of their perverted notions of a warriors rewards we will be plagued with these people. I personally would like to play soccer with the head of Osamy Ben Ladin and then feed it to some hogs. That is the mindset we have to cultivate to wipe this plague out.
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