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To: AllGoodMen
Do you also subsribe to the "Big Bang" theory?

Yes, BB theory was used to predict the cosmic microwave background. Startling vindication.

Carbon dating seems to be an accurate science as does DNA testing. We don't really know how old the world is.

Carbon dating is only good to about 60k years so it is useless where the age of the earth is concerned. Several cross-correlating observations tell us that the earth is around 4.5 billion years old. This age was converged on about 50 years ago by different measurement techniques. You may not know that, but I do. Other cross-correlating observations tell us that the universe is about 14 billion years old.

Somthing that has always amazed me is the dinosaur fossils and now some are coming out with theories the age of the dinosaurs was ended by the earth flooding.

I suspect the word there is "hypotheses" rather than "theories". I am unaware of any evidence that supports the idea that the dinosaur age was ended by a global flood. There is no evidence for a global flood in the geological column (and a global flood would leave lots of traces behind unless a deity "wiped" the evidence.

I believe that once we take our last breath in this existence we have yet another existence in another dimension not contained or affected by time - eternity.

Not impossible and a comforting thought for many. I do find the idea of a Lord Creator of the universe handing out nice or nasty places in eternity according to a behaviour-while-alive ticklist risible though.

You still have an open mind and that is a good thing. Your curiosity of life and the orignins have life have led you into many searches for the answers of the meanings of these things. Man has meditated on them ever since he first up into the galaxies and asked himself "What is that?"

Absolutely true. At one time almost every phenomenon was put down to the direct and personal intervention of whatever deity people believed in. Lightning strikes, floods, hurricanes, disease epidemics, famine. Now we know better, that if a deity exists that deity appears to have set up a universe with rules that doesn't require constant manipulation at His whim to confirm to His will.

Our investigations tell us that if a deity created the human race then His mechanism for that was a pre-plan that used evolution. The DNA evidence is absolutely convincing to those who trouble to study it, we have common ancestory with the other apes. Some reject that notion, just as some people initially rejected the idea that lightning is explicable via natural law (they refused to put lightning rods on churches at first because they didn't want to defy God. But they soon noticed that the church without a lightning rod would continue to get hit by "God's wrath" while the cathouse next door with a lightning rod would always be spared). From where I am standing the idea of special creation looks as quaint as the idea that God directly manipulates the weather.

946 posted on 03/12/2006 1:01:16 AM PST by Thatcherite (I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
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To: Thatcherite
Your briiliant pool of knowledge on this subject is quite fascinating and you should debate openly, perhaps at a college.

"From where I am standing the idea of special creation looks as quaint as the idea that God directly manipulates the weather."

We will carry this (endless) conversation on another time. Until then, enjoy the Spring weather an oh, please do not get hit by lightning!

947 posted on 03/12/2006 4:28:07 AM PST by AllGoodMen
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To: Thatcherite
From where I am standing the idea of special creation looks as quaint as the idea that God directly manipulates the weather.
Thou breakest the ships of Tarshish with an east wind. (Psalm 48:7)

He caused an east wind to blow in the heaven: and by his power he brought in the south wind. (Psalm 78:26)

For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof. (Psalm 107:25)

He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries. (Psalm 135:7)

He sendeth out his word, and melteth them: he causeth his wind to blow, and the waters flow.(Psalm 147:18)

And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod. (Isaiah 11:15)

Thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind; (Jeremiah 51:1)

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it. (Ezekiel 13:13)

For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The Lord, The God of hosts, is his name. (Amos 4:13)

But the Lord sent out a great wind into the sea, and there was a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken. (Johah 1:4)

And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him. And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm. But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him! (Matthew 8:23-27)

950 posted on 03/12/2006 10:32:52 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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