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To: goldstategop
I kind of figured this about the flick when I saw previews for it.

Then again, I'm the guy who thought that the Agents in The Matrix were good guys right up until Neo gave them "the finger" and demanded his phone call... at that point, I was like, "oh, these are supposed to be bad guys." Because until then, I knew the following things: 1. Trinity was a cop-killer. 2. Agent Smith had advised the police not to go in after her, for their own safety. 3. The Agents were offering Neo a deal if he would help bring in a "terrorist" who was associated with the cop-killing Trinity.

That always surprises people whenever I tell them that.

19 posted on 03/07/2006 7:46:56 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Gordongekko909
I kind of figured this about the flick when I saw previews for it. Then again, I'm the guy who thought that the Agents in The Matrix were good guys right up until Neo gave them "the finger" and demanded his phone call... at that point, I was like, "oh, these are supposed to be bad guys." Because until then, I knew the following things: 1. Trinity was a cop-killer. 2. Agent Smith had advised the police not to go in after her, for their own safety. 3. The Agents were offering Neo a deal if he would help bring in a "terrorist" who was associated with the cop-killing Trinity. That always surprises people whenever I tell them that

Interesting perspective.

48 posted on 03/07/2006 10:28:55 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Gordongekko909
Then again, I'm the guy who thought that the Agents in The Matrix were good guys right up until Neo gave them "the finger" and demanded his phone call... at that point, I was like, "oh, these are supposed to be bad guys." Because until then, I knew the following things: 1. Trinity was a cop-killer. 2. Agent Smith had advised the police not to go in after her, for their own safety. 3. The Agents were offering Neo a deal if he would help bring in a "terrorist" who was associated with the cop-killing Trinity.

1. Trinity was killing what amounted to armed slaves, controlled by the slavemasters, who were trying to capture or kill her. She was, literally, part of a group that was freeing slaves, one by one, and taking them to Zion.

2. That's what Agent Smith said, but as a program controlled by the machines who had enslaved nearly all of the human race to have them serve as batteries, you can be pretty sure that he didn't care much about the well being of the armed slaves he was using to keep the other slaves under control and stop those who were trying to free the slaves. He may have been more concerned that Trinity would get away since the cops went in prematurely, without the help of an Agent, and Trinity did, in fact, escape. Had the "cops" listened, and the Agents had been the ones to kick in the door, Trinity would not have been able to escape.

3. Neo was offered, and refused, a deal to give the Agents who were actually program used to control the enslaved and catch/kill those who were trying to free the slaves, information about one of the leaders of the group freeing the slaves. It is hard to call a man a "terrorist" if he is the one who is working to free the human race, who is almost entirely enslaved by the machines, a "terrorist". He is, from the point of view of the machines and their programs.

Again, there is little or no connection to current events. Associating the actions of the fictional characters in a science fiction movie with current situations is usually silly.

62 posted on 03/08/2006 5:48:41 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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