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Bodies of 23 Found in Baghdad
FOX News/AP ^ | March 08, 2006

Posted on 03/08/2006 4:37:14 AM PST by nuconvert

Bodies of 23 Found in Baghdad

Wednesday, March 08, 2006

BAGHDAD, — At least 23 bodies — many of them hanged — were found dumped in parts of Baghdad, while a string of explosions killed at least four people in the Iraqi capital, police said Wednesday.

An American military patrol investigating a report of a suspicious vehicle found 18 bodies late Tuesday in an abandoned minibus in west Baghdad, Iraqi police and U.S. forces said. The victims — all men — had been handcuffed, blindfolded and either hanged or shot to death, police Lt. Maitham Abdul-Razzaq said.

At least two appeared to be foreign Arabs, he added.

The bus containing the bodies was found on the road between Amariyah and Khadra, two mostly Sunni Muslim neighborhoods in one of Baghdad's most dangerous sections, Abdul-Razzaq said.

The bodies were taken to Yarmouk Hospital, where Dr. Mohanad Jawad confirmed two of the victims had been shot to death and the rest hanged. Their deaths appeared recent, he said.

In Wednesday's violence, a bomb hidden under a parked car near the University of Technology exploded as police from the interior minister's protection force were driving through central Baghdad, killing at least two people and injuring five, police Maj. Abbas Mohammed Salman said. The minister was not in the convoy, he said.

Another bomb missed an American convoy on the northern outskirts of Baghdad and killed two Iraqi boys who were selling gasoline by the side of the road, police Capt. Qassim Hussein said. He estimated their ages at between 10 and 11.

Elsewhere, police found the bodies of four men in an open field in Baladiyat, a mixed Sunni-Shiite neighborhood in east Baghdad. The victims had been handcuffed and hanged, police Capt. Mahir Hamad Moussa said, noting the rope marks on their necks.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baghdad; bodies; iraq; terrorism; wot

1 posted on 03/08/2006 4:37:17 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Wasn't Baghdad the heart of Saddam Hussein's support.

The people there having all the amenities while everyone else suffered deprivations?

2 posted on 03/08/2006 4:45:25 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: OldFriend

Bahgdad makes up part of the Sunni Triangle. (Ramadi, Tikrit, Samarra, Fallujah)
But remember, there was a Gallop poll done in Sept. 2003, and 2/3 of Baghdad residents said it was worth the hardships they'd endured to get rid of Saddam. So how much loyal support did he really have?


3 posted on 03/08/2006 5:14:52 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert
I wish I knew the real truth of who is doing what to whom in Iraq.

The MSM is lying thru their teeth on everything about Iraq.

4 posted on 03/08/2006 5:16:01 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: OldFriend; Allegra; Old Sarge; No Longer Free State; Former Military Chick
I wish I knew the real truth of who is doing what to whom in Iraq.

You'll find much more truth here on FR than in the MSM. Lots of folks THERE who can clear some of it up...

5 posted on 03/08/2006 5:21:29 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: nuconvert
At least two appeared to be foreign Arabs, he added.

Best case scenario: foreign Islamofascists known by the Sunnis to be involved in the Mosque bombing or some other rogue operation. They are cleaning up their own mess.

Worst case scenario: Sunni and foreign Islamofascists killed by Sadr loyalists or some other Shiite militia.

I suspect Iraqis know who is doing what without a score card. In the meantime, we can do no more than stand by and hope that reason prevails once the smoke clears.

6 posted on 03/08/2006 5:24:32 AM PST by massadvj
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To: OldFriend; StarCMC; Allegra
I wish I knew the real truth of who is doing what to whom in Iraq.
The MSM is lying thru their teeth on everything about Iraq.

Indeed. Ask away!

7 posted on 03/08/2006 5:32:09 AM PST by Old Sarge (My vigor to fight has been renewed.)
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To: Old Sarge
Who is doing the killing and why?

Why don't the locals turn them in?

8 posted on 03/08/2006 5:34:17 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: nuconvert
....handcuffed, blindfolded and either hanged or shot to death, police Lt. Maitham Abdul-Razzaq said.

At least two appeared to be foreign Arabs, he added.

Handcuffed? Hmmmmmmm. What people do we usually find in handcuffs?

9 posted on 03/08/2006 5:35:53 AM PST by Sooth2222
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To: OldFriend

BTW -- I like your tagline.


10 posted on 03/08/2006 5:38:35 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: StarCMC

The MSM hates us and want us all dead because we're too stupid to live.


11 posted on 03/08/2006 5:42:10 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: massadvj

2 were foreigners, 2 were shot as opposed to being hanged. The same 2?


12 posted on 03/08/2006 5:42:45 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Sooth2222

"What people do we usually find in handcuffs?"

What people do we usually find using handcuffs?


13 posted on 03/08/2006 5:44:42 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: massadvj
"At least two appeared to be foreign Arabs, he added."

Best case scenario: foreign Islamofascists known by the Sunnis to be involved in the Mosque bombing or some other rogue operation. They are cleaning up their own mess.

Worst case scenario: Sunni and foreign Islamofascists killed by Sadr loyalists or some other Shiite militia.

I suspect Iraqis know who is doing what without a score card. In the meantime, we can do no more than stand by and hope that reason prevails once the smoke clears.

I wouldn't necessarily consider your best case scenario outside the bounds of reason in this case and given the circumstances.

14 posted on 03/08/2006 5:46:10 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: OldFriend

Looking at these - executions of both foreign and local, dumped in a Sunni area - tells me it's a telegraphed message. "See what happens? Learn."

I think the locals DID turn them in, but not to any national authority. This was vigilante justice.

The local Iraqi neighborhoods work with us quite well. The rapid recruitment and training of an effective Iraqi Army is proof. They're motivated to assume control of their own lives, and they want ALL foreign influence out.

AQIZ are getting desperate - they could not stop three elections and a legal democratic government forming. The strategy of "Kill an American a day, and the Media will force them to leave" has failed. So, they are now resorting to spectacular terror attacks, like the mosque bombing, knowing the Media will lead with blood.


15 posted on 03/08/2006 5:54:58 AM PST by Old Sarge (My vigor to fight has been renewed.)
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To: Fruitbat
Fox News reported this morning that it looked like all of the bodies were non -Iraqi Arabs. Sounds like they are cleaning house.
16 posted on 03/08/2006 5:55:10 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: reagandemo
That's my first thought. And it's about time. I'd love to see this happen throughout the muslim community. IMO that'd be the first real Islamic-wide indication of something tremendously positive.
17 posted on 03/08/2006 5:58:05 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: reagandemo

...in terms of the terroristic and abusive element within Islam, which is far further reaching than many realize.


18 posted on 03/08/2006 5:58:52 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: nuconvert

This is the tribes rounding up the "insurgents", read die hard Baathists.


19 posted on 03/08/2006 6:01:35 AM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: Fruitbat

I agree. I am just not holding my breath over them taking charge and cleaning their country out of these vermin.


20 posted on 03/08/2006 6:02:20 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: nuconvert

another light at the end of the tunnel alert


21 posted on 03/08/2006 6:02:25 AM PST by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: Old Sarge
Something that's been whispered. Militias are being formed.

Is this what is happening with the house cleaning?

From my safe position here in the US, I see this as a good thing. However, it could get overdone if after the housecleaning these guys continue to operate to shake down the locals for 'protection'.

22 posted on 03/08/2006 6:03:06 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: nuconvert

I wish I could remember, I read on an Iraqi blog a couple of years ago that there is a difference between hanging and shooting. One is reserved for officers, the other for commoners.


23 posted on 03/08/2006 6:04:14 AM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: Fruitbat
I wouldn't necessarily consider your best case scenario outside the bounds of reason in this case and given the circumstances.

I have to agree. This was a clean, professional hit in Sunni domain. The Sunnis are much more adept at such an operation than the Shiites.

24 posted on 03/08/2006 6:07:34 AM PST by massadvj
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To: nuconvert
At least two appeared to be foreign Arabs, he added.

Hmmm. Are Iraqis beginning to take care of the 'foreign terrorist' problem on their own?

25 posted on 03/08/2006 6:29:54 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: reagandemo
I agree. I am just not holding my breath over them taking charge and cleaning their country out of these vermin.

Yeah, neither am I. There's no precedent for it and "bad, evil, violent" men typically triumph over the more peaceful, complacent types for obvious reasons until full fledged regional or world wide war breaks out with civilization hanging in the balance.

26 posted on 03/08/2006 6:38:24 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat
What really makes me worry is that The leader of Iran and Bin Laudin have both said that their goal is creating the 3rd world war to eliminate all of the non-muslums from the face of the world. While saying this our MSM and liberals continually tell us that we are the blame.
27 posted on 03/08/2006 7:06:35 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: reagandemo
And why not, it's straight from the Koran:

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah

[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

What do people that've read the Koran and Mohammed's other teaching's expect? It's no secret, only a denied truth and reality.

28 posted on 03/08/2006 7:11:54 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: reagandemo
[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

But our choice, politically, and in the media, is to stick our heads in the sand, not read the Koran or the Hadith and Mohammed's other writings, turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to reality, and then try to pretend that it's something it isn't just so that we can live in bliss, .... ignorantly.

29 posted on 03/08/2006 7:14:24 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: McGavin999

How can you be sure?


30 posted on 03/08/2006 7:20:56 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

Call me crazy, but if ignorant is me ignoring a doctrine which claims if I blow myself and a bunch of innocents away I'll have 72 friggin virgins waiting for me, well...

I guess I'll just have to settle for living a good life, treating people good and fair, loving my family, working to achieve my dreams and goals and, uh, not having 72 virgins waiting for me...

Yeah... call me crazy.


31 posted on 03/08/2006 7:31:12 AM PST by AmericanRepublican (There are fools on both sides. Only the true Americans will prevail.)
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To: AmericanRepublican

I have heard that the 72 virgins are not in the Koran but was made up my a cleric. The only thing that the Koran says is that you will be given a special place by Allah.


32 posted on 03/08/2006 7:36:52 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: nuconvert; Old Sarge
But remember, there was a Gallop poll done in Sept. 2003, and 2/3 of Baghdad residents said it was worth the hardships they'd endured to get rid of Saddam. So how much loyal support did he really have?

Not much. Ever. He is despised in Baghdad.

It's true that most of his support base was either in Baghdad or Tikrit. But still, the majority in both places detested the oppression and murder that were the symbols of his "leadership."

33 posted on 03/08/2006 7:59:17 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: OldFriend; Old Sarge
I wish I knew the real truth of who is doing what to whom in Iraq.

Just ask us. We'll tell you whatever we can.

And yes, the MSM is lying through its teeth.

34 posted on 03/08/2006 8:00:55 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: Allegra

Thanks.
Have you heard any more about these bodies being found? What's the latest word there?


35 posted on 03/08/2006 8:02:16 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: SuziQ
Hmmm. Are Iraqis beginning to take care of the 'foreign terrorist' problem on their own?

Yes.

Iraqis are starting to assume a lot of their own national security duties.

The MSM back home isn't telling you that, are they?

The MSM is reprehensible.

36 posted on 03/08/2006 8:03:10 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: Allegra

The MSM speaks directly from the DNC faxline.


37 posted on 03/08/2006 8:08:58 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: nuconvert
Have you heard any more about these bodies being found? What's the latest word there?

We're not getting any information on that yet, aside from what people back home are getting from the news. Of course, we'll pump the locals when they come on base tomorrow. I'm always interested in their opinions.

The early scuttlebutt is that it might be vigilante killings. It's been happening some lately, although not on such a large scale as this. But citizens are killing people who are known to be terrorists on occasion these days.

And I'm all for that.

38 posted on 03/08/2006 11:16:42 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: nuconvert

That's it, it's over, we'd better BUGOUT!@!!!!!!


39 posted on 03/08/2006 1:10:09 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Allegra

"But citizens are killing people who are known to be terrorists on occasion these days."

That's good to hear!


40 posted on 03/08/2006 2:09:59 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Allegra
The MSM back home isn't telling you that, are they?

I don't listen to them, so it doesn't matter what they say. I have friends whose daughter is in Army Intelligence with a Stryker brigade near Baghdad. She sends notes to her parents from time to time about the good things that are happening there, and they put me on the distribution list. ;o)

41 posted on 03/08/2006 2:33:13 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: reagandemo

Christoph Luxenberg, a scholar of ancient Semitic languages in Germany, argues that the Koran has been misread and mistranslated for centuries. His work, based on the earliest copies of the Koran, maintains that parts of Islam's holy book are derived from pre-existing Christian Aramaic texts that were misinterpreted by later Islamic scholars who prepared the editions of the Koran commonly read today.

So, for example, the virgins who are supposedly awaiting good Islamic martyrs as their reward in paradise are in reality "white raisins" of crystal clarity rather than fair maidens.

http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/02/03/1bkk/04b.html


42 posted on 03/08/2006 2:50:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Not to mention that the Koran was written over 100 years after Mohammad's death and that there were no persons alive who heard anything he said first hand.


43 posted on 03/09/2006 5:25:42 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: reagandemo

"... the Koran was written over 100 years after Mohammad's death and that there were no persons alive who heard anything he said first hand."

I guess they knew that, that's why there are some 62 volumes of hadith...to give it some back-up. The hadith are the tellings of the various friends and companions of the 'prophet' who apparently watched every move he made and hung onto his every word, so the majority of islam is actually an oral tradition...of how many times he wiggled his willy when he had a pee and how often he washed his hands, and now the mohammadans do likewise. Slavishly.


44 posted on 03/09/2006 2:24:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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