Posted on 03/08/2006 5:41:53 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
MADISON, WI (AP) -- Wisconsin voters would be asked in September whether the state should bring back the death penalty after a 153-year hiatus under a measure approved by the state Senate 20-13 on Tuesday.
The referendum results would be advisory, but Senate President Alan Lasee, R-De Pere, said he hoped they would spur the state Legislature to join 38 states that have the death penalty.
Voters would be asked whether Wisconsin should have capital punishment in "vicious" first-degree murder cases in which killers are convicted using DNA evidence. The state outlawed capital punishment in 1853.
"I think it's important for the people to speak out and for legislators to pay attention," said Lasee, who has pushed to reinstate the death penalty for 25 years.
The referendum would be held at the same time Republicans choose their candidate for governor. Democrats said Lasee was trying to skew the results by picking an election when conservatives would dominate the electorate.
Democrats also have a contested primary in the attorney general's race slated for the Sept. 12 primary.
Sen. Jeffrey Plale, D-South Milwaukee, said the measure was a knee-jerk reaction to the graphic details released by prosecutors last week in the murder of a 25-year-old woman in Manitowoc County.
"We have a calling to rise above that intense need for revenge," he said.
The state Assembly needs to approve the resolution before the referendum could appear on the ballot. Gov. Jim Doyle, an opponent of the death penalty, does not have to sign off on the resolution.
The resolution is SJR 5.
Some amazing things happening in this state these days. They may seem minor to those that live in very Red states, but little things like this make me hopeful for the future of Wisconsin. :)
Two more bits of legislation for Wisconsin Conservative Politics Ping List Members to watch:
SCHOOL VOUCHERS:
MADISON, WI (AP) - The state Assembly signed off on legislation Tuesday allowing Milwaukee's school voucher program to add thousands of students while pumping an additional $25 million into a program that helps create smaller classes for younger students statewide.
The Assembly and Senate approved their own versions of the legislation last week. Though the bills were identical in content, both houses had to approve the same version before the measure could go to Gov. Jim Doyle for review.
The Assembly voted 59-35 to approve the Senate's version, clearing the way for the bill to go to Doyle.
Voucher supporters had pushed for legislation to ease enrollment caps after the state warned the program would hit its current limit of 15 percent enrollment of Milwaukee Public Schools and could result in thousands of students being turned away.
Assembly Speaker John Gard, R-Peshtigo, and Doyle, a Democrat, reached a compromise to allow the program to expand to 22,500 students from about 15,000.
The bill also sets aside $25 million over the next two years for the Student Achievement Guarantee in Education program, which lowers class sizes for students in 5-year-old kindergarten through third grade.
Doyle has pledged to sign the bill, which also would add accountability standards requiring the schools in the voucher program to apply for accreditation and implement standardized testing.
The program, created in 1990, allows low-income Milwaukee families to send children to private and religious schools at state expense of up to $6,300 per student.
The bill is SB 618.
REINING IN DOYLE'S VETO PEN:
MADISON, WI (AP) - The state Assembly voted Tuesday to rein in the governor's veto power by approving a proposed amendment to the state constitution that would set new limits on use of the veto. The vote was 72-24.
The Senate already approved the measure, which would have to be passed again in the next two-year session before it could go before voters in a statewide referendum.
Wisconsin governors wield one of the most powerful veto pens in the nation with the power to strike out individual words and numbers to create new passages and appropriations.
Last year, Gov. Jim Doyle crossed out words and cobbled together others in four subsections of the state budget to give his top aide the authority to transfer $400 million to public schools. Lawmakers wanted that money to go for transportation funding, state health care programs and other purposes.
It was the most controversial of his 139 vetoes and prompted lawmakers to propose the constitutional amendment.
One of his Republican predecessors, Tommy Thompson, similarly developed a reputation for creative use of the veto pen.
The amendment would ban governors from stitching together words from two or more sentences to make new phrases.
The proposal is SJR 33.
I hear you. I hope it can cross the border and influence the weenies at our capitol. I mean, of course, our spineless Republicans...the RATs are a lost cause. In fact, given a rivival of the death penalty in Minnesota, a goodly number of RATs would end up on the chopping block.
I'm thinking of opening a rope store just across the border, d'ya think the business potential will be looking up?
"I'm thinking of opening a rope store just across the border, d'ya think the business potential will be looking up?"
Open a "syringe boutique" and you'll be very, very successful.
Why is abortion not okay in the minds of pro-life Christians, but the death penalty is?
If we are going to be a pro-life society, murder via the death penalty must end as well.
God has warned us in the Bible to allow Him and only Him to take revenge.
You assume that the death penalty is about revenge, while most people believe it is about deterrence and punishment. Abortion is the taking of innocent life; the death penalty is about the taking of guilty life. Would Jesus endorse the killing of a wolf to save a flock of sheep? I think so.
"Would Jesus endorse the killing of a wolf to save a flock of sheep? I think so."
Well said. I agree.
There was one execution in Wisconsin--in 1851. John McCaffery was convicted of drowning his wife Bridget in a barrel of muck, and was hanged in front of 3,000 people in Kenosha.
But the execution went horribly wrong--McCaffery dangled for fifteen plus minutes, suffocating.
Sentiment against the death penalty rose as a result.
In my opinion, times have certainly changed, and in light of the sick crimes (e.g. the Avery case) making the news, surely capital punishment deserves reconsideration.
Re-Pinging you all because there is a full court press by the local liberal media, today:
Death vote could color fall elections - Advisory referendum goes to Assembly
By Anita Weier and David Callender (The Capital Times)
The debate over bringing back the death penalty in Wisconsin is expected to highlight partisan differences in the race for both governor and attorney general.
The hot-button issue is back at the forefront of state politics after the Senate passed a resolution 20-13 Tuesday that would put a statewide advisory referendum on the September primary ballot. The bill is not on the Assembly agenda for Thursday, the last day of the regular session, but it may be considered during brief sessions in April or May, a spokesman for Assembly Speaker John Gard said today.
Gov. Jim Doyle and Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager, both Democrats, oppose capital punishment, as does Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk, who is challenging Lautenschlager in the Democratic primary.
But all of the Republicans running for the two top statewide offices were quick to embrace a proposed statewide advisory referendum on the death penalty.
Gubernatorial candidate U.S. Rep. Mark Green, R-Green Bay, said in a statement that "in certain rare occasions, the only just punishment for the barbarian and inhumane actions of a murderer is the death penalty.
"As I traveled the state in the past few days, time and again, I was asked the same question: 'When is Wisconsin going to allow the death penalty as an option.' I think the time has clearly come," he said.
Green said while he believes the penalty should be rarely used, "there are certain evildoers whose sadistic actions demand the ultimate punishment," such as in cases of the murder of a child or a law enforcement officer.
Green's primary opponent, Milwaukee County Executive Scott Walker, said he supports a referendum on the death penalty for "multiple, first-degree vicious murders."
But he said it is "critical" that convictions in such cases be based on DNA evidence.
"This will guarantee that only guilty people will face capital punishment and is key to my support for the referendum question," he said.
Attorney general candidates J.B. Van Hollen and Paul Bucher also endorsed the referendum.
Bucher, the Waukesha County district attorney, said if elected he would "actively campaign" for a law to impose it in cases of aggravated murder, the death of a law enforcement officer or "where the murderer shows a total disregard for the victim, provided DNA evidence is available."
Van Hollen, a former U.S. attorney, said that the death penalty should be an option "when DNA evidence supports a jury's verdict and when the crime involves murder of law enforcement, multiple homicide, or sexual assault and torture."
On the Senate floor: "This is the first time we actually had a vote and it passed the Senate," said Sen. Alan Lasee, R-DePere, after Tuesday's vote. He has been trying to get the death penalty re-established in Wisconsin for 30 years.
Lasee tried a referendum this time instead of a bill reinstating the death penalty because Doyle would veto a bill, the senator said. Gov. Jim Doyle opposes capital punishment, but has no role in a referendum decision.
The senators ignored pleas by the Wisconsin Catholic Conference to reject the measure.
The Senate vote was largely along party lines, with all Republicans and one Democrat - Sen. Roger Breske of Eland in northern Wisconsin - voting for the referendum.
John Huebscher of the Catholic Conference sent a memo to senators stating that "Our opposition to SJR 5 is grounded in a consistent life ethic, which calls us to defend human life whenever it is threatened."
Huebscher also argued that the wording of the referendum is subjective.
As amended, it states:
"Should the death penalty be enacted in the state of Wisconsin for cases involving a person who is convicted of first-degree intentional homicides, if the homicides are vicious and the convictions are supported by DNA evidence?"
That would create a two-tiered punishment for murder, said Sen. Robert Wirch, D-Pleasant Prairie.
"We are saying there are two different levels of homicide," Wirch said. "Every homicide is vicious. How do you differentiate? It should have logic and a rationale."
A person might commit murder in front of 100 witnesses and not be subject to the death penalty because no DNA was found, argued Sen. Fred Risser, D-Madison.
Wirch also accused Republicans of proposing the measure for political reasons.
But Sen. Jeff Plale, D-South Milwaukee, said, "We know why this bill is here" - recently disclosed details alleged to have occurred during the gruesome murder of photographer Teresa Halbach. "We all have that visceral knee-jerk reaction to seek revenge."
Lasee responded that he introduced the bill last January.
Plale reminded his colleagues that Wisconsin used to have public hangings until one was badly botched, leading to a long and tortured death.
"The Legislature then, in the 1850s, even though it was unpopular, knew Wisconsin could do better," Plale said.
Several Democrats argued that most people on death rows are poor and black, that the system is unjust and that innocent people have been executed.
"You make a mistake with a capital case and there is no going back," Plale warned. "Either you're pro-life or you're not."
Lasee countered that none of those opposing the referendum had mentioned the victims. He said his fight to reinstate the death penalty began after a little girl was raped and murdered in 1978 - a girl the same age his daughter was at the time.
"I know the difference between vicious and non-vicious," Lasee said, naming serial killers Jeffrey Dahmer and David Spanbauer as vicious killers.
"What is a proper punishment for such despicable crimes? Putting someone in jail with three square meals a day doesn't cut it with me. This will have no effect in the Halbach case, unfortunately."
Lasee also noted that 38 other states have a death penalty, as does the federal government for some crimes.
Wirch countered that Wisconsin has a lower murder rate than many states that have capital punishment.
Sen. Carol Roessler, R-Oshkosh, said that those who would be executed have been tried, found guilty and exhausted numerous appeals. "I believe there needs to be a death penalty for individuals who have committed vicious, violent, premeditated first-degree homicide. The death penalty is about justice," she said, adding that two-thirds of her constituents favored the death penalty.
Sen. Robert Jauch, D-Poplar, argued that the death penalty will not deter killers because they are not rational individuals. Risser pointed out that murderers do not expect to be caught.
"Having the death penalty won't bring those hunters back," Jauch said, referring to the murders of six deer hunters in Sawyer County in 2004.
Sen. Jon Erpenbach, D-Middleton, concentrated on the possibility of error.
"There is no possible foolproof, 100 percent guarantee that we will have a system that would never execute an innocent person. Death is an final as it gets. Once you kill someone, they're dead," he said.
"Who would be willing to pull the switch?" asked Plale.
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/stories/
A flibbertigibbet? I know the etymology of the word but the 'gibbet' is just too suggestive.
I see that the politician Green espouses a citizenry divided First Class from second class citizens, with a cop a First Class Citizen and the rest of us expected to die quietly. Sorry, we are equal or we are not. This is what happened to the PPA, turned into a pork-pie and sliced up for each special interest group until no one wanted a piece of that - Eeew!
Exactly right. When someone like Vang is convicted of six murders and then smugly thanks the Wisconsin taxpayers for the free meals and shelter he'll get for the rest of his life, something needs to be changed.
Seriously though, I don't know what you're talking about.
You are the one that wrote of a hanging gone wrong, aren't you? The hangman's noose is designed to break the neck and sever the spinal nerve column, minimizing the trauma to the observer. In a failed hanging, with the noose too tight, the rope too tight or a noose not used, then death is by strangulation and the victim does the deadman's dance, first conciously, then unconciously and finally as the dead dance.
The deadman's dance might be characterized as flipping around on the gibbet (the crane supporting the hangman's rope), hence flibbertygibbet.
You might get some experience in what you write of rather than demonstrating my tagline...
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