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To: SoothingDave
The average social drinker is not going to be a hazard at 0.08

Could you prove that to me please?

Please provide one documented example. (of .08 crash)

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/publications/dui/section2.html

http://www.ncadd.com/08_crashrisk.cfm

Do you think they just come up these out of thin air?

Positive BACs below .08 were involved in an estimated 69,400 crashes that killed 2,664 and injured 43,730

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/alcohol/impaired_driving_pg2/US.htm

I suppose you consider EVERY one of that estimate to be false or made up???? Or what??? C'mon now you cannot really think that people below .08 don't crash????Do ya?

You are more than willing to claim waht is unreasonable. I would politely ask you to provide for me what you do find reasonable and why you find it reasonable. See that is the thing that qualifies opposition. Alternatives that rest on their merit. Got any?

72 posted on 03/08/2006 10:09:42 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
Please provide one documented example. (of .08 crash)

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/publications/dui/section2.html

That's a state propaganda page. This is not an example of a person a 0.08 causing an accident.

But let's play with your data anyway. This page states:

Drivers with a BAC greater than .08 who were killed in crashes were 10 times as likely to have a prior conviction for driving while intoxicated.

In other words, people who are killed in crashes are much more likely to be both above 0.08 and repeat offenders.

At .08, all drivers are impaired to the point that critical driving skills are greatly diminished. Studies indicate that at a .08 BAC level, a driver’s steering, braking, speed control, lane changing, gear changing and judgments of speed and distance are all significantly impaired.

No citation given.

The average DUI offender is:
caught driving with a BAC level of .16 percent

Double the legal limit! Doesn't this seem to indicate the problem is not at 0.08?

SD

79 posted on 03/08/2006 10:26:02 AM PST by SoothingDave
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