Posted on 03/08/2006 7:39:01 AM PST by kellynla
After years of being restrained in dark clubhouse corners and furrowed front office glances, the truth is out, and it's ugly, and it has just collided with one of the biggest forces in sports.
It has landed between shifty eyes. It has splattered across deceitful lips. It has dripped past a stubborn chin.
It will expose. It will dissect. It will humiliate.
It won't do this to Barry Bonds.
It will do this to baseball.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Wipe them from baseball history.
Sad part is that McGwire and Bonds would've made the Hall of Fame without juicing up. .....although in all liklihood neither would've broken the single season HR record.
Selig is freaking ......but he deserves it.
I have mixed feeling about this.
As a natural bodybuilder, I do not take steroids. And I never have done so.
Never, until recently when the government started criminalizing products that last year you could buy at Wal Mart.
So now, I guess I am a "steroid user."
And Bonds certainly wouldn't be making a run at Aaron's 755.
Does anybody know if there is any hint of truth to Palmeiro having tested 'clean' two weeks before he tested 'dirty'?
For a long time I was so proud of McGuire and Sosa. Thought they were real sports heroes to look up to for kids. No more. Don't care about ANY of them.
"Sad part is that McGwire and Bonds would've made the Hall of Fame without juicing up. ....."
Bonds maybe. McGwire, no. Bonds was one of the best left fielders ever. He had the leather and could throw. He also was fast on the basepaths and had a good bat. I have baseball cards of both of them as rookies. Together they weighed maybe 300 pounds soaking wet.
Sosa? Never heard if he took anything. Then again, you had these little guys hitting 50 homers. Makes you wonder after they had problems reaching the warning track the previous year.
Anyway, asterisks next to all of their names.
All his statistics from at least 1999 on are suspect.
I would cut his home run totals from that year to the present in half. That would still give him over 550 home runs.
On numbers alone, probably good enough for the Hall of Fame.
But considering the steroids, I don't know if he should go in.
Sosa was a twig as a rookie. Another guy people forget was a twig was Joey Belle.
Bonds weighed 185 as a rookie, but he had no waist back then, so he looked slender.
McGuire was a big(fat)guy in college. His rookie card lists his weight as 220 and he looks bigger than that on the card.
McGwire took andro. Period. If you saw him without a shirt, you would know that.
He looked like a Pillsbury ad.
Contrast this with "Sting", "The Ultimate Warrior", and half the wrestlers ever in WWF.
The steroid boys are all cut like crystal.
As a Hank Aaron fan going back to my youth, I hope this book derails Bonds. It should have been obvious to everyone that Bonds was on steroids when his power and bat speed dramatically IMPROVED in his mid-30s. If the commissioner does nothing, he should be replaced by one with some balls.
dude McGwire was 230 lbs at a rookie.
Bonds was 175.
Now Bonds is 260. McGwire never got above 260.
If anyone could get McGwire to smell like a rose, it's Bonds.
McGwire is going to be elected into the HoF probably on the 2nd ballot. Bonds won't ever get elected now.
Of course he will. He has neither been charged with nor convicted of a criminal offense, any drugs he took were not forbidden by Major League Baseball at the time, and his numbers even before 1998 are too significant to ignore.
It gives the ESPN blowhards something to get all stirred up about, but in the end it won't affect Bonds HOF status the way gambling affected Pete Rose's.
Rose was banned. I am certain that if he were on the ballot he would have been elected by now.
If Selig does anything, he is going to hang Bonds out for the court of public opinion to skewer. There isn't much else he can do legally and Bonds will sue and might even win, given how incompetent Selig seems to be.
That said, these very same "ESPN blowhards" have votes on the HOF ballot.
and I am seeing the same vitriol aimed at Bonds from several sources, not just ESPN.
He's done. He'll probably get 50% (given the West Coast homerism) and that's about it. The East Coast won't vote for him.
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