University checks "bubble fusion" fraud claim (cold fusion fraud)

Reuters ^ | Wed Mar 8, 2006 | Maggie Fox

[Lurker]

It just sounds unnatural to nitrate uranyl.

Possibly painful as well.

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[Paul C. Jesup]

As anyone who has paid attention to the cold fusion committee in the past 15 years, you would know that if literally God himself handed a working prototype that produced cold fusion, the cold fusion committee would call it a fraud. It's never enough with them.

[seastay]

here it how others think its done;

Sandia’s Z machine exceeds two billion degrees Kelvin
Temperatures hotter than the interiors of stars
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Sandia’s Z machine has produced plasmas that exceed temperatures of 2 billion degrees Kelvin — hotter than the interiors of stars.

The unexpectedly hot output, if its cause were understood and harnessed, could eventually mean that smaller, less costly nuclear fusion plants would produce the same amount of energy as larger plants.

http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/news-releases/2006/physics-astron/hottest-z-output.html

[Lurker]

Bad a bing...

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[martin_fierro]

It's Visual Cliche time!

[saganite]

ping

[saganite]

I've been following Taleyharkin's work for a while and it looked like he was making progress. However, trying to silence your critics and falsifying data generally mean your research is suspect, don't you agree?

[sagar]

"if literally God himself handed a working prototype that produced cold fusion, the cold fusion committee would call it a fraud."

Everybody knows God would not create anything that reduces the dependence on oil.

[timer]

The source of anti-CF rhetoric is the hot fusion guys in the DOE, for 15 years they have FEARED CF as a serious competitor. They have been funded by the federal government(your taxes)for 50 years to achieve controlled thermonuclear fusion and have never produced a single WATT of over-unity fusion energy. CTHF has always been 50 years in the future, and always WILL be 50 years in the future; and GWB's science advisor is Charles Vest, Mr CTHF at MIT. Thus CTHF is a (vest)ed interest and their minions in academia are ORDERED to bad mouth CF whenever and whereever they can...I've done CF myself in a simple experiment, produced tritium in abundance and doubled the K41 ratio from 8% to 16%(vs K39)in a table top cup for under $100. If you have access to a mass spectrometer you can prove it to yourself, or buy the CTHF lie. Science should be a critical analysis process, not money-driven.

[saganite]

I don't disagree with anything you've said but Taleyharkin is a leading bubble fusion researcher and now he's under a cloud of suspicion. Would you suggest that he's being hounded by the hot fusion crowd?

[Ruddles]

Then suddenly it occurred to him...REVERSE THE POLARITIES!

[punster]

The definitive test for the fusion reaction is the the copious production of neutrons and gamma radiation.

The preferred reaction for fusion is:

2 Deuterium yields 1 atom of Helium-3 plus a neutron and gamma radiation (energy yield of about 17 MEV per fusion).

It turns out that a 1 watt yield of energy from fusion, would rapidly (within minutes) expose the lab worker to a fatal radiation exposure (gamma + neutron)

[USNBandit]

Naranjo's lab reported in April 2005 that it had achieved cold fusion by heating a lithium crystal soaked in deuterium gas.

There's your problem, ya daft idiot! You gotta use dilithium crystals or you're never gonna get yer self any fusion, much less warp speed. (/outrageous scottish accent)

[Mr170IQ]

> The preferred reaction for fusion is:
> 2 Deuterium yields 1 He-3 plus a neutron and gamma radiation ~17MEV.

And it is clear, due to the lack of observed high-energy neutrons and gammas that the reaction you have quoted is not occurring (in cold fusion).

It appears likely that any reactions that occur in a cold-fusion cell would involve the deuterium fusing with some of the heavy atoms in the electrode, which would probably eject a medium energy alpha particle.

The absence of observed high-energy neutrons and gammas is strong evidence that D+D fusion is not occurring, but does not imply at all that no nuclear reactions are involved.

[quietolong]

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[Mr170IQ]

> Naranjo's lab reported in April 2005 that it had achieved cold fusion by heating a lithium crystal soaked in deuterium gas

In theory, the Li-6 + deuterium fusion reaction would be extremely well suited for clean energy production, especially in a colliding beam reactor - http://www.qtp.ufl.edu/~monkhors/cbfr_RD.htm . The reaction products, two He-4 nuclei, would have identical energies - idea for turbine-less electricity production in a particle decellerator.

[ChiMark]

Are you saying that pure science can become political?

Please inform us novices on the potential benefits of cold fusion.

I certainly hope they're on to something cedible.

[jonrick46]

I know for certain that Gillette has produced fusion with the addition of the fifth blade (I couldn't resist).