Skip to comments.General Semantics and Holocaust Denial (PDF. File)
Posted on 03/08/2006 11:02:16 PM PST by mal
CERTAIN GROUPS claim the Holocaust never happened. Almost from the beginning of the discovery of this widespread destruction of European Jewry before and during World War II, Nazi apologists, anti-Semites, and selfstyled skeptics have tried to discredit the accepted history of this period. Deborah Lipstadt of Emory University has termed this phenomenon Holocaust denial. While originally an obscure movement, since the rise of the internet in the mid-1990s, Holocaust denial has grown significantly, and new adherents continue to set up web sites dedicated to debunking the myth. The upside to the growing awareness of Holocaust denial is that organizations and individuals have taken up the task of preserving the basic truths of the Holocaust, while exposing this period to continuing historiographical scrutiny, thus promoting a better and more complete understanding of the Holocaust.
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I've actually met people who think it never happened. One no more than a 16 year old school girl. Terribly sad.
They probably also think the moon landing took place in a Hollywood studio.
They'll all understand better when Jesus comes back.
They all seem to be of about the same mental age....
Yep, sort of like the flash of recognition one has when he realizes he has been had. They never expected Jesus to be real! That is when the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin.
Those with dirty hands in this matter, including the Vatican, wish the memory of the Holocaust would go away. It almost had when Stephen Spielberg brought out "Schindler's List".
--Those with dirty hands in this matter, including the Vatican, wish the memory of the Holocaust would go away.
Those with dirty hands such as the USA, Great Britain, France, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc.. etc..
Did anyone reach out to the Jews?
". . . the Catholic Church, under the pontificate of Pope Pius XII was instrumental in saving at least 700,000, but probably as many as 860,000, Jews from certain death at Nazi hands."
Pinchas E. Lapide, THREE POPES AND THE JEWS (1967)
"When fearful martyrdom came to our people, the voice of the pope was raised for its victims."
Golda Meir, Israeli Foreign Minister (October 9, 1958)
"I should like you to take this occasion to express to His Holiness my deeply-felt appreciation of the frequent action which the Holy See has taken on its own initiative in its generous and merciful efforts to render assistance to the victims of racial and religious persecution."
Franklin D. Roosevelt to Myron C. Taylor (August 3, 1944)
. . . I told him [the Pope] that my first duty was to thank him , and through him, the Catholic Church, on behalf of the Jewish public, for all they had done in the various countries to rescue Jews, to save children, and Jews in general." .
Moshe Sharett, First Israeli Foreign Minister (April 1945)
"In all these painful matters, I referred to the Holy See and afterwards I simply carried out the Pope's orders: first and foremost to save human lives."
Angelo Cardinal Roncalli, Patriarch of Venice, Later Pope John XXIII (1957) "
"What we can say already, in light of what we have learned, is that the Nazis considered Pius XII and his collaborators as their greatest enemies and that, reciprocally, the Pope and his entourage saw the Nazis as criminals working for the destruction of the Church and civilization."
Jean Chelini, LE FIGARO (October 8, 1983)
"The gratitude [to Pope Pius XII] of the world Jewish leaders, for deeds to which their own archives are witness, was transformed after 1963 into totally negative commentary. The well-intentioned, informed world Jewish community was downgraded to 'disgraceful testimonials of a few Jews' (NEW YORK TIMES, September 27, 1989,Letters)."
Rev. Robert A. Graham, S. J. (October 1989)
"Anyone who does not limit himself to cheap polemics knows very well what Pius XII thought of the Nazi regime and how much he did to help countless people persecuted by the regime."
Pope John Paul II (1995)
"In his 1942 Christmas message, which THE NEW YORK TIMES among others extolled, the pope became the first figure of international stature to condemn what was turning into the Holocaust."
Kenneth Woodward, NEWSWEEK (March 30, 1998)
"Did anyone reach out to the Jews?"
Not that I know of, and that includes GM and Volkswagen, along with other Aewrican auto companies and German industrial corporations with us today. They all served Hitler.
They were from Aewrica, USA.
That's a pack of filthy lies.
Yes ... that would, of course, be ....
You guessed it:
RoadTest's knowledge of history is more than a little bit lacking in the facts.
At least you admit your abyssmal ignorance.
It's a start.
Oh brother not this again....
I am so sick of this stuff. These guys are more than ready to re-invent world history now that the generation that was witness to it all are almost gone.
Intellectual cowards is my view. They are not even worth talking to.
You nailed it!
I have a little more sympathy than for the other guilty actors in the tragedy. Many Catholic priests did try to help, and some were very effective. The Pope did try to help some, even though he could have done more, and IMO, has been the target of a smear campaign that's been out to tarnish the rep of the Catholic Church.
Have you forgotten that the highest ranking Rabbi in Rome at the time was so impressed with the efforts by the Vatican to stop all this that he converted?
Have you forgotten there is a book out by a Jewish Rabbi right now that says this "the Vatican was part of it" hype is false and sings high praises for the efforts by the Pope and many others in the Church?
Have you forgotten that Hitler had the Church on the list as "Next"?
Have you forgotten that many priests were in those camps as well?
You know what you have already answered all these questions, if you but knew it.
I do not have much respect for people who wish to falsify the past to suit their own agenda. I do not have it for Holocaust deniers. I knew people who survived. I also have little time for those who only want to finish what Hitler only just started with the Church.
I see enough roadkill on country roads, I don't need to see it here.
Make sure you also Buy The Book!
"The West has given more significance to the myth of the genocide of the Jews, even more significant than God, religion, and the prophets...."Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
The Holocaust Chronicle ~
"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."FReeper sgtbono2002
"Then let's wait and see what the Arabs do after they take Gaza. There's nothing like Arab reality to break up a Jewish fantasy."FReeper Noachian
A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."
The Nature Of Bruce ~
Meet Aloisuis Stepinac, the future Patron Saint of Genocide
In 1941-45 Archbishop Stepinac was a head of Roman Catholic Church in Croatia. Under his watch, hundreds of thousands of Christians have been murdered and forcibly converted to RC faith. Forcible conversions were under direct Archbishop's responsibility. Victims property was confiscated and distributed by an agency of Nazi state, headed by RC Priest (Draganovich). Roman Catholic priests and nuns were busy running concentration camps.
After the war and defeat of Nazism, Vatican help hide Nazi war criminals and spiriting them out to South America to flee from justice. The enire Croatian Nazi loot from murdered was held in Vatican. Stepinac was elevated to the rank of Cardinal, and beatified by JPII.
This is not RC bashing, this is historical fact. Denying it is holocaust denial.
Planned sainthood for someone who breached The Canon of RC Church is the most telling.
One can only imagine the conversation between St. Augustin, St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Aloisius.
Holocaust denial is only one segment of Nazi revisionism. The others are Holocaust Diminishing (It happened, but it was not 6 milion, maybe 600,000 or one million, two million tops") and Holocaust awareness dilution.
Lowlifes of Stormfront type are not the main problem because they are ignored by the mainstream media.
The problem are eloquent, educated who have full access to the mass media.
Dilution of awareness is acheived by robbing the terms of their meaning. One can often say liberals and leftists ranting about "Israeli Nazis", "Polish Death Camps" and the like. The very word "holocaust" is used for everything, even colloquially (we had a holocaust, our budget proposal was rejected")
Stupid Nazi revisionists are deniers. Smarter are Diminishers. The most vicious are diluters.
Diluters have access to PR agencies and media and their views shape public opinion. One diluter is worth more than thousand Stormfront skinheads.
The damage to the memory of the dead is immesurable. They erase it effectively with various propaganda techniques, that are not obvious. Stupid Nazi revisionists often get arrested because of the violent acts. Smarter ones got arrested for spreading hate speech and denial (Zundel, Irving). The smartest ones never get arrested. They profit.
Here are three examples how diluters work. During Bosnia civil war, the headlines screaming "Belsen" and fake photos
appeared in British papers. The name Belsen was chosen because over 50% of British adult population has NEVER heard of Auschwitz.
The implication is clear. If Belsen 92 was fake, so was Belsen 42. The circulation surpassed anything Nazi types in dark alleys or internet can disseminate. Clear win for Nazi side.
During Kosovo campaign, the stories of fake incinerations of corpses in alleged Trepca smelter, were widely circulated in European and American press.
Daily Mirror published without blinking: Trepcathe name will live alongside those of Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka,
Trepca was a fraud. And people read it without blushing, or protesting. If the name of the fraudulent crematoria live alngside those of Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka, implication is clear- Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka are also fraud.
Last but not least, go to GOOGLE search engine and type BELSEN and see how many hits you will get. (641,000 when I checked), , Belzec (227,000) Majdanek(240,000),Mauthousen (80), Ravensbruck (398,000), Sobibor (366,000), Treblinka (510,000)
Then, repeat the search for Srebrenica.
The lie about Srebrenica is earmarked to become the symbol of genoicide. It already casts the shadow over Holocaust extermination truth by sheer volume displacement.
One may ask, who are the Diluters and what steps ADL, USHMM are taking to stop them.
The answer to this question is long due.