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Dubai threat to hit back (UAE Threatens Against Boeing and US Bases Support)
The Hill.com ^ | March 9, 2006 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze

Dubai is threatening retaliation against American strategic and commercial interests if Washington blocks its $6.8 billion takeover of operations at several U.S. ports.

As the House Appropriations Committee yesterday marked up legislation to kill Dubai Ports World’s acquisition of Britain’s Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation (P&O), the emirate let it be known that it is preparing to hit back hard if necessary.

A source close to the deal said members of Dubai’s royal family are furious at the hostility both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill have shown toward the deal.

“They’re saying, ‘All we’ve done for you guys, all our purchases, we’ll stop it, we’ll just yank it,’” the source said.

Retaliation from the emirate could come against lucrative deals with aircraft maker Boeing and by curtailing the docking of hundreds of American ships, including U.S. Navy ships, each year at its port in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), the source added.

It is not clear how much of Dubai’s behind-the-scenes anger would be followed up by action, but Boeing has been made aware of the threat and is already reportedly lobbying to save the ports deal.

The Emirates Group airline will decide later this year whether it will buy Boeing’s new 787 Dreamliner or its competitor, Airbus A350. The airline last fall placed an order worth $9.7 billion for 42 Boeing 777 aircraft, making Dubai Boeing’s largest 777 customer.

Dubai in mid-February also established the Dubai Aerospace Enterprise, a $15 billion investment to create a company that will lease planes, develop airports and make aircraft parts to tap into growing demand for air travel in the Middle East and Asia.

The family-ruled sheikhdom may buy as many as 50 wide-body aircraft from Boeing and Airbus during the next four years, according to Aerospace Enterprise officials.

The UAE military also bought Boeing’s Apache helicopters. Meanwhile, Boeing has been in talks with the emirates to try to sell its AWACS planes.

An industry official with knowledge of Boeing’s contracts with Dubai said that the company has been involved in the emirate and that it would take a lot “to knock” those relationships.

“Nothing about the [ports] controversy diminishes our commitment to the region,” said John Dern, Boeing’s corporate spokesman. He added that at this point the company has no indication that there is or will be an impact on the company.

Any repercussion to Boeing could put House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) in a delicate position. Boeing’s decision to move its headquarters to Chicago has been seen as calculated to facilitate a close relationship with Hastert. He is against the ports deal, and his office did not return calls by press time.

Several businesses have expressed concern that the controversy over the $6.8 billion ports deal could damage trade with the UAE. Dubai is one of the seven emirates. The United States and the UAE are meeting next week for a fourth round of talks to sign a free-trade agreement. The American Business Group of Abu Dhabi, which has no affiliation with the U.S. government, said that Arabs may hesitate to invest into the United States, according to a report by Reuters.

A Republican trade lobbyist said that because the ports deal is a national-security issue blocking it would not be in violation of World Trade Agreement rules.

“In terms of them retaliating legally against the U.S. … I don’t think there are many options there,” the lobbyist said.

But when it comes to the emirates’ cooperation in the war on terrorism and in intelligence gathering, there is concern that some help may be pulled.

“If we reject the company in terms of doing the [ports] work, they are going to lose a lot of face. In the Arab culture, losing face is a big deal,” a former government official said. “We risk losing that help. It is not an empty threat.”

Dubai is a critical logistics hub for the U.S. Navy and a popular relaxation destination for troops fighting in the Middle East. On many occasions since the ports story erupted, the Pentagon has stressed the importance of the U.S-UAE relationship.

Last year, the U.S. Navy docked 590 supply vessels in Dubai, plus 56 warships, Gordon England, deputy secretary of defense, said in a Senate hearing last month. About 77,000 military personnel went on leave in the UAE last year, he added.

During the hearing, he warned about the implications of a negative decision on the ports deal: “So obviously it would have some effect on us, and I’d not care to quantify that, because I don’t have the facts to quantify it. It would certainly have an effect on us.”

Although owned by the Dubai government, the company at the heart of this controversy, Dubai Ports World, is trying to distance itself from any kinds of threats, said a lobbyist closely tracking the deal.

Another lobbyist monitoring the controversy said K Street still believes there will be a compromise that allows the Dubai deal to go through while meeting congressional security concerns, even though a bill aimed at that result, put forward by House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King (R-N.Y.), was widely repudiated amongst lawmakers Tuesday.

Senate leaders have indicated that they would wait to take action until the new 45-day Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) review is completed.

Meanwhile, in London, DP World cleared the last hurdle for its take over of P&O. The Court of Appeal in London refused Miami-based Eller & Co., which opposed the deal, permission to appeal against clearances for the legal and financial measures necessary to implement the takeover.

P&O said it expects to file the requisite court orders, making the takeover terms binding on DP World, according to the Financial Times.

Elana Schor contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americafirst; dubai; howdareyouopposew; nationalsecurity; portgate; thenwebetterbendover; uae
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A source close to the deal said members of Dubai’s royal family are furious at the hostility both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill have shown toward the deal.

“They’re saying, ‘All we’ve done for you guys, all our purchases, we’ll stop it, we’ll just yank it,’” the source said.

Retaliation from the emirate could come against lucrative deals with aircraft maker Boeing and by curtailing the docking of hundreds of American ships, including U.S. Navy ships, each year at its port in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), the source added.

Well, are we all happy now...

1 posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:20 AM PST by prairiebreeze
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To: Peach; Mo1; Txsleuth; Bahbah; Tony Snow; tiredoflaundry

ping


2 posted on 03/09/2006 9:03:02 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Old Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: prairiebreeze; Flux Capacitor

Told ya....

Hope you had fun FC, because now we are in a bind.


3 posted on 03/09/2006 9:03:47 AM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952+ replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: prairiebreeze

What goes around comes around........


4 posted on 03/09/2006 9:03:52 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: prairiebreeze

Probably their plan all along, knowing how the public would react.


5 posted on 03/09/2006 9:03:52 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Probably their plan all along, knowing how the public would react.


6 posted on 03/09/2006 9:03:54 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
Probably their plan all along, knowing how the public would react.

They will be giving up a ton of money by kicking the US military out of their ports. I kinda doubt that was their plan.
7 posted on 03/09/2006 9:04:56 AM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952+ replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: prairiebreeze

Personally, I agree with the UAE. Did we all think it was risk free for them to allow American warships to pay visits there? They could have just said no...I think they have a right to be indignant. In my opinion, this whole thing is politics in an election year.


8 posted on 03/09/2006 9:05:03 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: prairiebreeze

Not surprising an Arab nation would threaten us. But don't worry - Bush has promised to veto any bill to stop the sale. I just have to wonder why he is so determined to see this through.


9 posted on 03/09/2006 9:05:45 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: prairiebreeze

I thought this would happen. Our debt will rise. Gas will rise. Our military will be kicked out of countries that have previously supported us.

I hope the people on this forum who chose deliberately not to educate themselves about the issues are proud of themselves. Because I'm disgusted with them.


10 posted on 03/09/2006 9:06:10 AM PST by Peach
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To: prairiebreeze

That's interesting, we have to give them these bases or they threaten to harm us in every way they can?

I have not followed this issue or made a decision about it until now. With these threats the deal is OVER. So much for pleas about what great friends they are. Do what they want or face their wrath. I say we Giulani them and say keep your money...


11 posted on 03/09/2006 9:07:35 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: prairiebreeze

Probably only the first of many Middle East countries offering some support to us to slam the door.


12 posted on 03/09/2006 9:07:40 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: prairiebreeze
Well, it looks like the ruling family has thier panties in a twist. We could also pull our military installations from thier country and let them do it thier own national security.

That might give `em a little "perspective".

13 posted on 03/09/2006 9:07:46 AM PST by paulcissa (Only YOU can prevent liberalism.)
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To: prairiebreeze
A source close to the deal said ...

...the source said.

Be suspicious of an anonymous source, unless they're saying what you want to hear eh?

14 posted on 03/09/2006 9:07:53 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Howlin; OXENinFLA

PING


15 posted on 03/09/2006 9:07:53 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Old Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Nice going Republicans


16 posted on 03/09/2006 9:08:24 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: prairiebreeze

So, UAE resorts to economic blackmail.


hmmmmm


17 posted on 03/09/2006 9:08:33 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: prairiebreeze

I can't fault Dubai for their reaction. It takes 2 to make a partnership and the Prez realizes this, whereas the Dims/MSM/rebellious Repubs seem to think we can snub whoever it feels good to snub and not incur any repercussions. The fallout may very well cause much more harm to our National Security and interests than even what the most fertile imaginations of the knee-jerker political opportunists are claiming might happen if Dubai gets to run some of the facilities. Especially sad since they formed their initial impressions with a marked lack of knowledge of the real situation and decided to ride the wave into the November elections instead of looking at the facts. The Dims are being Dims and the Repubs are being ...Dims.


18 posted on 03/09/2006 9:08:42 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: prairiebreeze

Anyone who is surprised by this, stand on your head.


19 posted on 03/09/2006 9:08:47 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Peach

You think they would have gotten a clue when the Dems are against the port deal.


20 posted on 03/09/2006 9:08:57 AM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: prairiebreeze

Rush is talking about this now...


21 posted on 03/09/2006 9:09:36 AM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: prairiebreeze

Well....there is at least one thing very WRONG in that article..

The Senators are NOT willing to wait until the 45 day review is up....they are wanting to deal with this today..most of them.

Dorgan stood up on the Senate floor this morning and said that he doesn't need 45 days...he didn't need 45 MINUTES...to say NO WAY.


22 posted on 03/09/2006 9:10:10 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw)
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To: prairiebreeze

We never should have let it reach the point where their assistance and commerce was dependent on them operating our ports. Let them bleat, but keep our ports out of their hands.


23 posted on 03/09/2006 9:10:24 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: Mo1; Tony Snow
Nice going Republicans

John Boehner and his merry band of backstabbing weasels had better not feign surprise about this.

When you kick allies in the teeth, they're going to respond in kind.

24 posted on 03/09/2006 9:11:26 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: trebb

Yup. The people calling this "blackmail" aren't being fair either. Duh...if the situation was reversed we wouldn't be rushing to make deals with them in the future either.


25 posted on 03/09/2006 9:11:34 AM PST by KJC1 (Bush is fighting the War on Terror, Dems are fighting the War on Bush)
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To: prairiebreeze

Wonder what the Congressional delegation from Washington State is thinking right about now?..........


26 posted on 03/09/2006 9:11:35 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: MikefromOhio

They also will be screwing our economy up, and making it look like it was Bush's fault. They have tons of money already.


27 posted on 03/09/2006 9:11:37 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Oh so that is how it is? The truth comes out. Now that they can not get what they want they are going to try and BLACKMAIL the USA into bending over and grabbing our ankles and giving it to them anyway? Right, who will they run to when Alkadia decides it is time to take the UAE down?

True "friends" stick with/by you whether they get what they want or not. Sure this deal fell through and with good reason as far as I am concerned. But the good old USA has and is doing a ton for the UAE, but I guess that does not count if your ultimate goal is a subserviant dhimmi sp? USA. Ny tagline says all I need to know about Islam.

28 posted on 03/09/2006 9:11:44 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Convert, Slavery or Death = "Islam the Religion of Peace tm" "It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims")
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To: prairiebreeze

What a surprise as I posted a letter to the head of CBS news on this very subject and actually received a response that was more than a cursory acknowledgment. Turn about is fair play as Dubai (UAE) have options and we have cretins for elected leaders. Boeing and General Electric will certainly be thrilled with these prospects as they are among the top five exporting American corporations and we need not worry about our balance of trade. This should be met with great elation in Toulouse and chagrin in Everett, WA and Cincinnati. A pox upon all of their houses.


29 posted on 03/09/2006 9:11:51 AM PST by Bubba M. Aurelius
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To: prairiebreeze

Good! Maybe it'll wake up all these Smoot Harley idiots.


30 posted on 03/09/2006 9:11:56 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: mlc9852
I just have to wonder why he is so determined to see this through.

Family ties.

Old adage: Follow the money.
31 posted on 03/09/2006 9:12:01 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Mount Athos

"Retaliation from the emirate could come against lucrative deals with aircraft maker Boeing and by curtailing the docking of hundreds of American ships, including U.S. Navy ships, each year at its port in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), the source added."

And what....continue their happy uberwealthy way of life without protection?

What do they plan on doing? Giving AlQuada their loots as bribes.

Lots of noise here for a country on the edge.


32 posted on 03/09/2006 9:12:07 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: prairiebreeze
nah we don't need any friggin allies in the region...

we are only holding Iraq together (not tenuously but still we are a major part of what's going on there).

We are only moving towards the bring of war with Iran.

We are only trying to fight AQ on their own territory.

We don't need no damned allies!! We can do it all on our own hook!!


/idiots, savage fans, Republicans who can't see strategically and Chuck Schumer who LOVES embarrassing the right wing
33 posted on 03/09/2006 9:12:22 AM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952+ replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: rlmorel

I'm with you. This is an election year fiasco that will have reprecussions for decades.


34 posted on 03/09/2006 9:12:27 AM PST by mpackard
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To: TomGuy
So, UAE resorts to economic blackmail

This isn't balackmail. (I shouldn't even have to explain why it isn't)

35 posted on 03/09/2006 9:12:30 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: prairiebreeze
Ah, the joys of protectionism! I along with many other Freepers predicted this would happen. Rep. Jerry Lewis and the bipartisan know-nothings really screwed over the War on Terror.

Instead of servicing Navy ships in the UAE, maybe they can have the work done in Guam. Hey, what's a month of travel downtime... it's not like we're fighting a war or anything. This ex-Navy guy is pissed at the port-blockers.

36 posted on 03/09/2006 9:12:36 AM PST by inkling
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To: rlmorel

Our biggest trade deficit ever in January. You think the USA is bullet proof?


37 posted on 03/09/2006 9:12:44 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: mlc9852
"I just have to wonder why he is so determined to see this through."

Did you not read the d*mn article?! They are an ally! We are beginning to piss them off, and they rightfully are afraid of being betrayed. D*mn, they are trying to integrate with the ways of the West, and we essentially have a US Congress telling them to f*ck off! The prez knows the UAE isn't perfect, but they are (currently) on our side in the WOT.

This is EXACTLY why Hillary can not be president. She is willing to destroy anything in her way to get what she wants.
38 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:15 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Peach
Gas will rise

That is a good thing.

39 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:16 AM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Maybe this will add a little reality to the hysterics that are going on over the port deal. I wonder how the reps from Washington will react to the news about Boeing. The other major Arab countries like Saudi Arabia can also cancel commerical and military air sales. There are consequences to demonizing the UAE and other friendly Arab states. They don't have to buy American products. We have stiff competition from Europe and China.


40 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:27 AM PST by kabar
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To: TomGuy

Yep.

Let's see.. denial, or even questioning a UAE business venture in the US is deserving of essentially kicking out all US assets and scraping many/all US contracts in the UAE.

Yeah.. seems reasoned to me.
Yeah.. seem like great allies to me.

Yeah.. gonna go buy a bridge now.


41 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:31 AM PST by CygnusXI (Where's that dang Meteor already?)
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To: mlc9852

It is called strategery.


42 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:34 AM PST by pennboricua
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To: Peach

So it's not Bush's fault? It's ours!!!


43 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:40 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Peach

So it's not Bush's fault? It's ours!!!


44 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:41 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Are we sure they're not just upset about the "Michael Jackon" thing?!?
45 posted on 03/09/2006 9:13:45 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Mount Athos

Wrong reaction. How many foreign countries will want to do business with the US now?

I worked as a commerial investment analyst on deals up to $1B; on deals more than that, the CFO had to sign off. Sometimes a deal just couldn't come together, despite working toward conclusion for nearly a year.

There are, at a minimum, tens of thousands of dollars involved in bringing a deal together. Include staff time and you're in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Every businessman who has been similarly shafted has threatened retaliation in some form. I don't blame the UAE in any way and would do the same.


46 posted on 03/09/2006 9:14:09 AM PST by Peach
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To: prairiebreeze

I'm tired of threats by pissant countries. Screw them.


47 posted on 03/09/2006 9:14:15 AM PST by TexasRepublic (North American distributor for Mohammed Urinals. Franchises available.)
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To: paulcissa

FOR SALE. large part of the north american continent, well developed. asking price? 7 billion in aircraft taken in trade.

Seriously, UAE would be very foolish to kick us out and they aint stupid just yet. If we are forced out, guess who will see an opening? Yep, the tall guy with many followers. This would be his dream as he has so often stated. And if he gets his own country, Saudia Arabia is soon to follow.

To all those who are now bashing those of us who wanted to make sure the ports deal was kosher, I can only say this to you.
TRILLIONS FOR DEFENSE, BUT NOT ONE CENT FOR TRIBUTE. You folks need to take some male hormone shots.


48 posted on 03/09/2006 9:14:34 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: prairiebreeze

From the uniformed ramblings on this thread, you'd think this was the DU.

Do some research people, before you spout the Democratics talking points. This uproar is strictly political crap to make the Dems look strong on Security and you people are buying it hook, line and sinker.


49 posted on 03/09/2006 9:14:41 AM PST by bannedfromdu
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