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NJ Assembly Speaker (DUMmie) speaks out against Geico
Philadelphia Business Journal ^ | 03/09/06 | Staff

Posted on 03/09/2006 11:06:49 AM PST by kevinm13

Legislation was introduced in New Jersey Tuesday that would bar insurers from using drivers' education or profession in setting automobile-insurance-policy rates.

Assembly Deputy Speaker Neil M. Cohen, D-Union, introduced the bill in response to published reports that Geico of Washington, D.C., used such information in setting prices.

"I found out about this practice the same way everyone in New Jersey did -- by reading the newspaper," Cohen, chairman of the financial institutions and insurance committee, said. "And just like everyone else, I was outraged."

Cohen's bill, A-2819, would prohibit insurers from assigning less-favorable rates to drivers based on their education level and/or occupation. It would also prevent insurers from requiring any educational or occupational information as part of an application for coverage or continued coverage.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: business; freetrade; geico; insurance
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To: yobid
I thought GIECO was a big Dem supporter? Are they eating their own again?

I'd like to find out. I know that Progressive is very leftie.

21 posted on 03/09/2006 11:37:34 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: kevinm13
I found out about this practice the same way everyone in New Jersey did -- by reading the newspaper
Well, that's certainly a reliable source for a Dem.
22 posted on 03/09/2006 11:37:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Isn't GEICO a Warren Buffett-owned company?

Yes, it is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway (WB's holding company).

23 posted on 03/09/2006 11:40:10 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: Tzimisce
Remember that NJ still has the highest auto insurance rates (and property taxes but that is another story) even after GEICO re-entered the market 3-4 years ago after an almost 20 year absence. Reforms initiated under Christie Todd Whitman took hold and improved conditions but only benefited drivers with marginally lower rates.

DUmmie thinking is to put everybody on the same scale and force us all into bankruptcy with high regressive taxes and restrictions to business like this.
24 posted on 03/09/2006 11:40:18 AM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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To: Gondring
GEICO used to stand for Government Employees Insurance Company. Open to the general public now though. Not sure about their political tendencies, though.
25 posted on 03/09/2006 11:40:32 AM PST by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: Jim Pelosi
Your opinion smacks of elitism. I work in the military with only a HS education. That means you're a better driver than me? I've been stuck behind enough Oriental Ph. D's who can barely see over the steering wheel to know that isn't true.

Insurance companies track huge amounts of data on people involved in crashes, and they learn that people who work in some jobs tend to have more accidents. They learn that on average people with a certain education level tend to have more accidents that people with a different education level.

They balance a lot of different factors based on what they know about someone and come up with rates for that person that they feel best represent the risk they are taking by insuring that person.

Education and occupation are far from the only factors they take into consideration. So picking out one person with a Ph. D that isn't a good driver and comparing them to yourself isn't a valid comparison to what they are doing.

However, if the insurance companies have real solid data that says that certain groups pose more risk than others, why shouldn't they be allowed to use that data? Why should other groups that pose less risk be forced to pay higher rates to help cover the costs of insuring the more risky people?

26 posted on 03/09/2006 11:43:54 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: kevinm13

I imagine as soon as they get this passed, their next target will be Life Insurance companies.


27 posted on 03/09/2006 11:44:22 AM PST by anoldafvet
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To: js1138

"Does traffic school count as drivers ed?"

I have Geico. They do not accept drivers ed. You have to get A's in school. If you are homeschooled, you have to show them a standardized test that shows that the student is in the top 80%. I wish they WOULD accept drivers ed. I think a student who takes drivers ed has more of a chance of being a safe driver than someone who can make good grades.


28 posted on 03/09/2006 11:45:23 AM PST by imskylark
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To: kevinm13

I imagine insurance actuarians have nailed down these figures well, otherwise the insurance companies wouldn't bother. Since 9/11 haven't Americans suffered enough?


29 posted on 03/09/2006 11:59:23 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: imskylark

You can't fool actuaries.


30 posted on 03/09/2006 11:59:49 AM PST by js1138
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To: kevinm13

Ironic that this come from the party that always touts education as the cure all.


31 posted on 03/09/2006 12:07:27 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Free Republic, the newspaper I can talk back to!)
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To: js1138
You can't fool actuaries.

True, but explain to me why life insurance companies have marketing campaigns targeting the Homosexual crowd.

32 posted on 03/09/2006 12:09:06 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Free Republic, the newspaper I can talk back to!)
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To: untrained skeptic
Insurance companies track huge amounts of data on people involved in crashes, and they learn that people who work in some jobs tend to have more accidents. They learn that on average people with a certain education level tend to have more accidents that people with a different education level.

True. I'm insured with an auto carrier that used to admit that it wanted "white collar" business. (Probably not PC to do that anymore.) It doesn't advertise and it usually accepts new insureds by referral from current insureds.

If you call them, the first question is "Who referred you?"

I don't get any satisfaction from the snob appeal but they've got excellent rates and last time I checked, Consumer Reports was rating them in the top three.

33 posted on 03/09/2006 12:19:58 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: Balding_Eagle

it's all in the odds


34 posted on 03/09/2006 12:51:48 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: Balding_Eagle

it's all in the odds


35 posted on 03/09/2006 12:55:57 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: Balding_Eagle
True, but explain to me why life insurance companies have marketing campaigns targeting the Homosexual crowd.

Probably, it is very expensive. I read that 50% get AIDS.

36 posted on 03/09/2006 1:08:51 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Republicus2001

By the way, I think it is interesting how Peter Lewis of Progressive made his fortune. Like a predator, he set up Progressive for the pool of rejects and then charged them a fortune. In 1994, Progressive charged me $900/mo when State Farm dropped me. I got that changed as quickly as I could. Tell me again how dems look out for the little guy.


37 posted on 03/09/2006 1:13:07 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pheadra
Nicest people in the world to deal with.

I won't argue that, but their commercials make my head explode!

38 posted on 03/09/2006 1:18:44 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: kevinm13

FWIW, I took 15 minutes and went to GEICO.com for a rate check. They quoted me a rate at least 15% HIGHER than what I was paying.

According to a chat with an agent, it was do to my credit check, which still had some junk in it from the ex.

My only loan at this time is my mortgage which accounts for about 20% of my takehome pay.


39 posted on 03/09/2006 1:21:24 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: kevinm13

Sounds like geckophopbia to me.


40 posted on 03/09/2006 1:24:38 PM PST by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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