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NJ Assembly Speaker (DUMmie) speaks out against Geico
Philadelphia Business Journal ^
| 03/09/06
| Staff
Posted on 03/09/2006 11:06:49 AM PST by kevinm13
Legislation was introduced in New Jersey Tuesday that would bar insurers from using drivers' education or profession in setting automobile-insurance-policy rates.
Assembly Deputy Speaker Neil M. Cohen, D-Union, introduced the bill in response to published reports that Geico of Washington, D.C., used such information in setting prices.
"I found out about this practice the same way everyone in New Jersey did -- by reading the newspaper," Cohen, chairman of the financial institutions and insurance committee, said. "And just like everyone else, I was outraged."
Cohen's bill, A-2819, would prohibit insurers from assigning less-favorable rates to drivers based on their education level and/or occupation. It would also prevent insurers from requiring any educational or occupational information as part of an application for coverage or continued coverage.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: business; freetrade; geico; insurance
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First it was Maryland legislators trying to tell WalMart how to cover its employees for healthcare in Maryland, then litigation that forced WalMart to stock products in its pharmacies that it did not need or choose to sell, now NJ Dummies want to restrict how GEICO does business. Of course somebody who is employed is a better risk than somebody who is unemployed. And white collar workers who have been educated are usually better than blue collar workers without a lot of education but that is only a bias on my part. Why shouldn't GEICO be able to ask whatever it takes to accept, properly rate or reject a potential customer?
I'm sure there will be plenty more where this came from under the Gov. Corslime regime.
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:06:52 AM PST
by
kevinm13
To: kevinm13
That reminds me. I saw a cop car sitting under a Lexus today, looked to me like the cop wasn't paying attention when the Lexus stopped.
I hope the cops profession isn't taken into consideration when he buys car insurance.
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:09:31 AM PST
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: kevinm13
They are calling drivers ed an "educational level"?
Are they sill allowed to discrimiante based on gender in insurance rates?
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:09:47 AM PST
by
L98Fiero
(I'm worth a million in prizes.)
To: kevinm13
Yah know, if the cost of doing business in a State exceeds the revenues, then the business leaves the State. Here we are, with an example of a law that could very well lead Geico to stop offering insurance in NJ.
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:12:02 AM PST
by
stylin_geek
(Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
To: kevinm13
Your opinion smacks of elitism. I work in the military with only a HS education. That means you're a better driver than me? I've been stuck behind enough Oriental Ph. D's who can barely see over the steering wheel to know that isn't true.
To: kevinm13
Tacklin' dem tuff issues !
To: kevinm13
Does traffic school count as drivers ed?
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:14:48 AM PST
by
js1138
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To: L98Fiero
"Are they sill allowed to discrimiante based on gender in insurance rates?"
or age?
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:16:43 AM PST
by
tfecw
(It's for the children)
To: cripplecreek
Hey, you don't like GEICO's criteria ?
Don't buy their insurance !
To: L98Fiero
Yes and they also use your credit score to determine rates
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:20:17 AM PST
by
DaiHuy
(Oderint dum metuant)
To: L98Fiero
Yes and they also use your credit score to determine rates
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:20:18 AM PST
by
DaiHuy
(Oderint dum metuant)
To: kevinm13
I thought GIECO was a big Dem supporter? Are they eating their own again?
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:21:26 AM PST
by
yobid
To: kevinm13
Isn't GEICO a Warren Buffett-owned company?
To: kevinm13
And white collar workers who have been educated are usually better than blue collar workers without a lot of education but that is only a bias on my part. Better than what? Better at what? Why do you have bias against your part?
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:23:35 AM PST
by
MontanaBeth
(Never under estimate the enemy.)
To: Jim Pelosi
And white collar workers who have been educated are
usually better than blue collar workers without a lot of education but
that is only a bias on my part. You need to read a bit more carefully before going off.
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:23:40 AM PST
by
stylin_geek
(Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
To: kevinm13
If you do this, the insurance companies are going to assume that we're all rotten drivers and charge us the highest amount.
It's the only smart thing to do. Good to know that we'll all suffer thanks to this guy's institutionalized PC....
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:23:59 AM PST
by
Tzimisce
(How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
To: yobid
No surprises here. NJ continues along the slow decline into socialism.
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:25:41 AM PST
by
ozoneliar
("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
To: Pheadra
'Nicest people in the world to deal with'
Ha! I had been driving a company car for several years and let my private coverage lapse. Prior to that I had had the same insurance carrier for decades. When I needed private coverage again I called Geico at the insistance of their TV ads. They wanted $4500/yr to insure a '95 Jag.(the car only cost $20K!) My old carrier took me back at less than one tenth that amount. You can have Geico. They are crooks in my book!
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posted on
03/09/2006 11:27:05 AM PST
by
bk1000
(A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
To: kevinm13
This is a typical liberal approach to business: shake them down by threatening expensive legislation or litigation. In this case, a business is being threatened because it dares to operate on a rational basis.
Insurance companies are, at their foundation, in the business of risk assessment. This involves the development of methodologies (e.g. - empirical, actuarial, historical, regional) designed to identify the nature and extent of various types of risk by category. The purpose of such categories is to allow the company to properly discriminate between acceptable and unacceptable risks and to price their products and services appropriately.
To Liberals, this is a presumptively illicit trade, involving as it does unequal treatment of people seeking insurance against risk. NJ was one of the last states to move to market rating for auto insurance - Massachusetts is now the LAST state left to set auto rates (no competition). NY has competition - but also incredibly complicated insurance regulations. Guess which states have the highest premiums in the country - inflicted fairly, of course, on all?
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