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NJ Assembly Speaker (DUMmie) speaks out against Geico
Philadelphia Business Journal ^ | 03/09/06 | Staff

Posted on 03/09/2006 11:06:49 AM PST by kevinm13

Legislation was introduced in New Jersey Tuesday that would bar insurers from using drivers' education or profession in setting automobile-insurance-policy rates.

Assembly Deputy Speaker Neil M. Cohen, D-Union, introduced the bill in response to published reports that Geico of Washington, D.C., used such information in setting prices.

"I found out about this practice the same way everyone in New Jersey did -- by reading the newspaper," Cohen, chairman of the financial institutions and insurance committee, said. "And just like everyone else, I was outraged."

Cohen's bill, A-2819, would prohibit insurers from assigning less-favorable rates to drivers based on their education level and/or occupation. It would also prevent insurers from requiring any educational or occupational information as part of an application for coverage or continued coverage.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: business; freetrade; geico; insurance
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First it was Maryland legislators trying to tell WalMart how to cover its employees for healthcare in Maryland, then litigation that forced WalMart to stock products in its pharmacies that it did not need or choose to sell, now NJ Dummies want to restrict how GEICO does business. Of course somebody who is employed is a better risk than somebody who is unemployed. And white collar workers who have been educated are usually better than blue collar workers without a lot of education but that is only a bias on my part. Why shouldn't GEICO be able to ask whatever it takes to accept, properly rate or reject a potential customer?

I'm sure there will be plenty more where this came from under the Gov. Corslime regime.

1 posted on 03/09/2006 11:06:52 AM PST by kevinm13
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To: kevinm13
That reminds me. I saw a cop car sitting under a Lexus today, looked to me like the cop wasn't paying attention when the Lexus stopped.

I hope the cops profession isn't taken into consideration when he buys car insurance.
2 posted on 03/09/2006 11:09:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: kevinm13

They are calling drivers ed an "educational level"?

Are they sill allowed to discrimiante based on gender in insurance rates?


3 posted on 03/09/2006 11:09:47 AM PST by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: kevinm13

Yah know, if the cost of doing business in a State exceeds the revenues, then the business leaves the State. Here we are, with an example of a law that could very well lead Geico to stop offering insurance in NJ.


4 posted on 03/09/2006 11:12:02 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: kevinm13
Your opinion smacks of elitism. I work in the military with only a HS education. That means you're a better driver than me? I've been stuck behind enough Oriental Ph. D's who can barely see over the steering wheel to know that isn't true.
5 posted on 03/09/2006 11:14:09 AM PST by Jim Pelosi
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To: kevinm13

Tacklin' dem tuff issues !


6 posted on 03/09/2006 11:14:32 AM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: kevinm13

Does traffic school count as drivers ed?


7 posted on 03/09/2006 11:14:48 AM PST by js1138
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To: L98Fiero
"Are they sill allowed to discrimiante based on gender in insurance rates?"

or age?
9 posted on 03/09/2006 11:16:43 AM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: cripplecreek
Hey, you don't like GEICO's criteria ?

Don't buy their insurance !

10 posted on 03/09/2006 11:17:04 AM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: L98Fiero

Yes and they also use your credit score to determine rates


11 posted on 03/09/2006 11:20:17 AM PST by DaiHuy (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: L98Fiero

Yes and they also use your credit score to determine rates


12 posted on 03/09/2006 11:20:18 AM PST by DaiHuy (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: kevinm13

I thought GIECO was a big Dem supporter? Are they eating their own again?


13 posted on 03/09/2006 11:21:26 AM PST by yobid
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To: kevinm13

Isn't GEICO a Warren Buffett-owned company?


14 posted on 03/09/2006 11:22:28 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: kevinm13
And white collar workers who have been educated are usually better than blue collar workers without a lot of education but that is only a bias on my part.

Better than what? Better at what? Why do you have bias against your part?

15 posted on 03/09/2006 11:23:35 AM PST by MontanaBeth (Never under estimate the enemy.)
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To: Jim Pelosi
And white collar workers who have been educated are usually better than blue collar workers without a lot of education but that is only a bias on my part.

You need to read a bit more carefully before going off.

16 posted on 03/09/2006 11:23:40 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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If you do this, the insurance companies are going to assume that we're all rotten drivers and charge us the highest amount.

It's the only smart thing to do. Good to know that we'll all suffer thanks to this guy's institutionalized PC....


17 posted on 03/09/2006 11:23:59 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: yobid

No surprises here. NJ continues along the slow decline into socialism.


18 posted on 03/09/2006 11:25:41 AM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: Pheadra

'Nicest people in the world to deal with'

Ha! I had been driving a company car for several years and let my private coverage lapse. Prior to that I had had the same insurance carrier for decades. When I needed private coverage again I called Geico at the insistance of their TV ads. They wanted $4500/yr to insure a '95 Jag.(the car only cost $20K!) My old carrier took me back at less than one tenth that amount. You can have Geico. They are crooks in my book!


19 posted on 03/09/2006 11:27:05 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: kevinm13
This is a typical liberal approach to business: shake them down by threatening expensive legislation or litigation. In this case, a business is being threatened because it dares to operate on a rational basis.

Insurance companies are, at their foundation, in the business of risk assessment. This involves the development of methodologies (e.g. - empirical, actuarial, historical, regional) designed to identify the nature and extent of various types of risk by category. The purpose of such categories is to allow the company to properly discriminate between acceptable and unacceptable risks and to price their products and services appropriately.

To Liberals, this is a presumptively illicit trade, involving as it does unequal treatment of people seeking insurance against risk. NJ was one of the last states to move to market rating for auto insurance - Massachusetts is now the LAST state left to set auto rates (no competition). NY has competition - but also incredibly complicated insurance regulations. Guess which states have the highest premiums in the country - inflicted fairly, of course, on all?

20 posted on 03/09/2006 11:37:19 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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