Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Rat-Squirrel Not Extinct After All (Scientists off 11 Million years)
The AP via Yahoo! News ^ | March 9, 2006 | Lauran Neergaard

Posted on 03/09/2006 2:46:21 PM PST by new yorker 77

It has the face of a rat and the tail of a skinny squirrel — and scientists say this creature discovered living in central Laos is pretty special: It's a species believed to have been extinct for 11 million years.

The long-whiskered rodent made international headlines last spring when biologists declared they'd discovered a brand new species, nicknamed the Laotian rock rat.

It turns out the little guy isn't new after all, but a rare kind of survivor: a member of a family until now known only from fossils.

Nor is it a rat. This species, called Diatomyidae, looks more like small squirrels or tree shrews, said paleontologist Mary Dawson of Pittsburgh's Carnegie Museum of Natural History.

Dawson, with colleagues in France and China, report the creature's new identity in Friday's edition of the journal Science.

The resemblance is "absolutely striking," Dawson said. As soon as her team spotted reports about the rodent's discovery, "we thought, 'My goodness, this is not a new family. We've known it from the fossil record.'"

They set out to prove that through meticulous comparisons between the bones of today's specimens and fossils found in China and elsewhere in Asia.

To reappear after 11 million years is more exciting than if the rodent really had been a new species, said George Schaller, a naturalist with the Wildlife Conservation Society, which unveiled the creature's existence last year. Indeed, such reappearances are so rare that paleontologists dub them "the Lazarus effect."

"It shows you it's well worth looking around in this world, still, to see what's out there," Schaller said.

The nocturnal rodent lives in Laotian forests largely unexplored by outsiders, because of the geographic remoteness and history of political turmoil.

Schaller calls the area "an absolute wonderland," because biologists who have ventured in have found unique animals, like a type of wild ox called the saola, barking deer, and never-before-seen bats. Dawson describes it as a prehistoric zoo, teeming with information about past and present biodiversity.

All the attention to the ancient rodent will be "wonderful for conservation," Schaller said. "This way, Laos will be proud of that region for all these new animals, which will help conservation in that some of the forests, I hope, will be preserved."

Locals call the rodent kha-nyou. Scientists haven't yet a bagged a breathing one, only the bodies of those recently caught by hunters or for sale at meat markets, where researchers with the New York-based conservation society first spotted the creature.

Now the challenge is to trap some live ones, and calculate how many still exist to tell whether the species is endangered, Dawson said.

Copyright © 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

Copyright © 2006 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allsquirrelsarerats; bloodbath; squirrelarmy; squirrels
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241-242 next last
To: Bubbatuck

oh yeah....the "niche" theory.

forgot about that one


21 posted on 03/09/2006 2:55:46 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: wallcrawlr

Not sure what "theory" you're talking about. I know of no "niche" theory.

Is it your assertion that animals MUST keep changing, absent any reason to do so?


22 posted on 03/09/2006 2:56:56 PM PST by Bubbatuck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: zipp_city
"I guess some will say it re-Evolved in 11 million years. But the facts are it has not changed at all."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...........
but but that means the evolutionists were wrong about this rat..dang I thought evolution was well THE TRUEST THEORY OF ALL, HOW COULD THEY BE SO WRONG. lets not bring it up in class the kiddies need not know.
23 posted on 03/09/2006 2:57:07 PM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: new yorker 77
To reappear after 11 million years is more exciting than if the rodent really had been a new species

This from a supposedly well educated naturalist!!! No reappearance or discovery involved. Western scientists have just seen it for this first time alive and not as a fossil. The local folk have a name and (likely thought the article doesn't say so) recipes for this animal.

24 posted on 03/09/2006 2:57:35 PM PST by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: new yorker 77
To paraphrase the old saying: "Reports of my death are really, really, really, really, really, premature."
25 posted on 03/09/2006 2:59:21 PM PST by Reaganesque
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: new yorker 77

Maybe it just "re-evolved" from a bizarre midnight rat/squirrel tryst?


26 posted on 03/09/2006 2:59:37 PM PST by manwiththehands
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ConsentofGoverned
What's a few million years one way or the other anyway?
That's like a nano second to the evos.
27 posted on 03/09/2006 2:59:38 PM PST by WKB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: K4Harty

Rat................................... Squirrel.Any questions?

28 posted on 03/09/2006 3:00:29 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Hate means never having to say you're crazy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: zipp_city; Bingo Jerry
Obviously the little mammal hasn't read Judge Jones' Dover PA ruling!

Evolution is a fact, lil' tree shrew. So you didn't bother to evolve you're breaking the LAW! Don't plan any trips to the Middle US Judicial District of PA, Mr. Rat-Squirrel -- you may be thrown in jail.

29 posted on 03/09/2006 3:00:40 PM PST by bvw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: new yorker 77
I still like the old one...LOL

Image hosting by Photobucket

30 posted on 03/09/2006 3:02:49 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: new yorker 77

Not a lot o' meat on them haunches. Mebbe we can use 'em for hats.


31 posted on 03/09/2006 3:03:24 PM PST by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: js1138

LOL. Just the little furball I was thinking of...


32 posted on 03/09/2006 3:04:22 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ConsentofGoverned
but but that means the evolutionists were wrong about this rat..dang I thought evolution was well THE TRUEST THEORY OF ALL, HOW COULD THEY BE SO WRONG.

The discovery that this species did not go extinct, like the discovery of the coelcanth, doesn't actually help or hurt the theory of evolution.

Why do you think it would?

33 posted on 03/09/2006 3:05:37 PM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: xcamel; new yorker 77
That's true about the saber-toothed cats. And actually the modern Clouded Leopard has a tooth structure that is very similar to the saber-toothed cats of yore. It's elongated skull (which is so different from all other cats that it belongs to a genus of its own) houses the largest canines in proportion to body size. The Clouded Leopard is also known as the 'modern-day saber-tooth.'


34 posted on 03/09/2006 3:06:58 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: bvw
Evolution is a fact, lil' tree shrew. So you didn't bother to evolve you're breaking the LAW!

Absent an environmental pressure, a species is unlikely to evolve much. Sharks have remained relatively unchanged in tens of millions of years.

35 posted on 03/09/2006 3:07:38 PM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: dhs12345
"Still has the "beady, scheming, like its planning something eyes" -- quote from my wife."

Was she talking about you or the rat-squirrel? :-)

36 posted on 03/09/2006 3:08:02 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's Resident Equal Opportunity Male Chauvinist Pig! :-))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: new yorker 77

Jeez... ANOTHER article about Marty Meehan?


37 posted on 03/09/2006 3:08:39 PM PST by pabianice (contact ebay??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: El Gran Salseron

LOL! Sometimes I wonder.


38 posted on 03/09/2006 3:09:11 PM PST by dhs12345
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Potowmack
"The discovery that this species did not go extinct, like the discovery of the coelcanth, doesn't actually help or hurt the theory of evolution."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..................
yeah, but it sure messes up their charts. LOL
39 posted on 03/09/2006 3:09:43 PM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: ConsentofGoverned
yeah, but it sure messes up their charts. LOL

Not really. It's interesting that this species survived longer than we thought it did, but that doesn't really "mess up" anything.

40 posted on 03/09/2006 3:14:18 PM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241-242 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson