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The Bill Clinton of Baseball - Barry Bonds and a sports injustice.
National Review Online ^ | 03/10/06 | Doug Gamble

Posted on 03/10/2006 6:20:02 AM PST by Fury

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To: D-Chivas

"Steroids didn't help Barry Bonds and his OBP. You can't enhance having a better eye for what the pitcher is sending you at 90 mph."

Depends what juice he was on...Human Growth Hormone enhances eyesight.


21 posted on 03/10/2006 6:36:03 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Fury
When MLB didn't play the world serious, I quit paying any attention to them.

A French pox on them and the sporting press that turns a blind eye to all primadonnas.
22 posted on 03/10/2006 6:39:20 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Red Badger

an astric will always tag this POS.


23 posted on 03/10/2006 6:39:47 AM PST by zek157
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To: jasoncann; Fury
I have season tickets for the Montgomery Biscuits AA team. Always a great time and you get to sit at the edge of the field and chat with up and comers like BJ Upton, Delmon Young, Jeff Francouer, Brian McCann, etc etc etc.

Plus you get to see kids genuinely excited about playing the game.

24 posted on 03/10/2006 6:40:32 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Fury

Doug Gamble needs to get out of California more often. Bonds will not make it into the Hall of Fame. Just picture the writers from some midwestern baseball town such as Kansas City reacting to his name on the ballot.

For the most part, America is a moral nation and won't conscience such cheaters.


25 posted on 03/10/2006 6:40:34 AM PST by ktcat (Visit my blog: ktcatspost.blogspot.com)
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To: Fury
And, at least up until now, the Teflon coating has held firm.

Hardly...he has very, very few apologists.

His name and records will be forever asterisked.

26 posted on 03/10/2006 6:41:34 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: zek157

He should be banned for life from baseball and all his records should be expunged from the books. Look how much damage he has done to the game in the minds of youths just starting out........


27 posted on 03/10/2006 6:41:45 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: HamiltonJay
Every pitcher in the league should intentionally walk Bonds every at bat.

They've pretty much been doing that already - ever since the 73 HR season. They only pitch to him when they have no choice.

28 posted on 03/10/2006 6:44:25 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Fury
The game needs a NEW Commissioner. They need another Judge Kennesaw Mountain Landis.

Landis had this to say about gambling, I can just imagine what he'd say about juiced-up players:

"Regardless of the verdict of juries, no player who throws a ballgame, no player that undertakes or promises to throw a ballgame, no player that sits in conference with a bunch of crooked players and gamblers where the ways and means of throwing a game are discussed and does not promptly tell his club about it, will ever play professional baseball."


29 posted on 03/10/2006 6:44:40 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: ErnBatavia
Hardly...he has very, very few apologists.

Stick around. They'll come crawling out soon. Frankly, I'm amazed at the number of people who continue to idolize this a-hole.

30 posted on 03/10/2006 6:44:53 AM PST by wireman
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
"If he is allowed to play this year, I predict lots of chin-music."

I only recall one guy throwing at Bonds in the last few years (Mark Prior). If pitchers start throwing at him now, the league will crack down on the pitchers, throwing them out of the game in the 1st inning and suspending them. If pitchers start intentionally walking him, manager Felipe Alou will move him to the top of the lineup to maximize his at-bats and scoring opportunities.

But I heard on ESPN he has been rehabbing his knee. If someone were to nail him there, hard, it might land him on the DL. However, I doubt there are any NL pitchers with enough love for the game to do it. (David Wells plays in Boston this year)

31 posted on 03/10/2006 6:45:55 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: ErnBatavia

Who cares if he's covered with Teflon? The Commissioner can ban him permanently just on suspicions.

There is no presumption of innocence or right to due process in baseball.


32 posted on 03/10/2006 6:46:29 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: D-Chivas

Through 1998, for instance, when he turned 34, Bonds averaged one home run every 16.1 at bats. Since then -- what the authors identify as the start of his doping regimen -- Bonds has hit home runs nearly twice as frequently (one every 8.5 at bats)...

Not only did the growth hormone keep him fresh, but after complaining in 1999 about difficulty tracking pitches, he noticed it improved his eyesight as well...


33 posted on 03/10/2006 6:47:29 AM PST by zek157
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That's what I'm saying regardless if it costs them a win or a run... just walk him EVERY SINGLE TIME NO MATTER WHAT.


34 posted on 03/10/2006 6:48:11 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Fury

I have a friend who hung around the AAA level for quite a few years before he finally gave it up and went into the family business. He says that in mlb nowdays if you ain't cheating...you aint't trying...and he was one of the few who didn't! (use some kind of "help") He also felt that because he refused to "bulk up" he could never compete consistently with all those who do...they should drug test everybody...they'd be shocked I'm sure at the results.


35 posted on 03/10/2006 6:49:18 AM PST by Ekoa
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To: Fury

The SI article (I've heard) suggests that Bonds began juicing in '98. OK. I suggest his career stats ended right there.

MLB probably won't barr Bonds from playing & eclipsing the numbers of Ruth & Aaron. But the HOF is where the revenge gets taken. Bonds does not get in. If they can keep Rose out, they can keep Bonds out also.


36 posted on 03/10/2006 6:51:25 AM PST by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Red Badger

Exactly. That asterisk will always be there in my mind.


37 posted on 03/10/2006 6:51:47 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: commish

You’re right there; I can’t say enough good things about Minor League Baseball. The Frederick Keys are a great night out and you can’t beat sitting in the front row for $11. We’re lucky in MD that we have five Minor League teams.


38 posted on 03/10/2006 6:52:35 AM PST by ElTianti
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To: D-Chivas
That belies logical reasoning. If it didn't help him why did he do it? Why did Sosa and Mac do it? Are they just injecting themselves in some sort of superstitious ritual?
39 posted on 03/10/2006 6:52:36 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: Fury
I agree.

Sports writer Tom Knott also blames Commissioner Bud Selig for his tacit approval. (The Washington Times, March 10)

40 posted on 03/10/2006 6:58:28 AM PST by Dante3
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