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Polish President says European Union does not exist
Pravda ^ | 10.03.2006 | Vasiliy Bubnov

Posted on 03/10/2006 1:27:28 PM PST by lizol

Polish President says European Union does not exist

10.03.2006 Source:

The Polish President Lech Kaczyñski has recalled that, before being elected to the post of head of state, he was one of the staunchest eurosceptics. In an interview with the German newspaper Die Welt he declared that, “the maximum level of integration into the European Union which is currently possible has now been reached”.

According to Kaczyñski, the European Union is an artificial structure. Unlike at the national level, the Polish President thinks that the concept of a European people does not exist. The EU works as a “super-state”, taking over powers of the national governments, yet at the same time only has a “symbolic budget” at its disposal, which gives rise to its feebleness, marked Kaczyñski.

It is no secret that the Polish leader has an extremely critical view of the European Union. Even before Poland joined the EU, when Lech Kaczyñski was one of the leaders of the parliamentary opposition, he became famous as a consistent eurosceptic. As he then thought, joining the European Union would open the way for Germany to make territorial claims against Poland and he urged Europe, instead of building a “common European house”, to concentrate on developing relations with the USA as a “guarantor of peace and stability in Europe ”.

Nevertheless, after being elected to the post of head of state, Lech Kaczyñski was by no means as categorical. It is one thing being in opposition, but another being head of state…In this respect it is noteworthy that during his visit to Kiev at the end of February this year, he assured Viktor Yushchenko that, from this moment on, Poland would actively lobby for Ukraine’s accession to the European Union. And that he personally would support Ukraine joining the EU and NATO.

It is interesting that, at practically the same time as the interview with Kaczyñski was published, the foreign ministers of Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia called for the European Union to formulate “definite prospects for Ukraine”, meaning to designate at least a rough date for their accession into the EU and the criteria governing this.

However, Lech Kaczyñski is not especially reliable in his role as a lobbyist for Ukrainian interests. In “old” Europe his previous comments have not been forgotten. Relations between Brussels and Warsaw are now relatively restrained. As an example it is sufficient to recall the idea of so-called “Energy NATO”, proposed by the Polish Prime Minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz. The essence of this proposal is that countries purchasing energy resources should create a system for guaranteeing joint security, which would provide for mutual support in crisis situations. For this it would be necessary to sign a corresponding agreement and draw up a whole system of measures, excluding the possibility of interruptions to energy deliveries. An important part of this system would be the creation of alternative routes for energy deliveries, which could become active in the case of an unexpected crisis.

However the “old” EU members gave this proposal a very cool reception, as it threatens the “dilution” of their influence. The thing is that Poland is counting on the USA joining “Energy NATO”, as the ways in which Washington could possibly grant help are much more extensive than European countries could. It is understandable that “old” Europe is hardly likely to agree to playing a minor role in the “energy alliance”.

It is highly likely that the current misunderstanding with Brussels has led the Polish President to be reminded of his role as a eurosceptic. Admittedly, this does undermine the promises which he made in Kiev. But this is a question of secondary importance.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; europe; europeanunion; kaczynski; poland
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1 posted on 03/10/2006 1:27:30 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol
Go Lech Go! I love this man!
2 posted on 03/10/2006 1:29:38 PM PST by curiosity
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To: lizol
with the USA as a “guarantor of peace and stability in Europe ”.

You know, with all due respect to Poland, what the hell? Why does every European think the US is going to foot the Defense bill in perpetiuty while they continue to spend an obscene amount on their welfare states? It's not going to happen folks. Time to get out of the house and start paying your own way.
3 posted on 03/10/2006 1:29:44 PM PST by steel_resolve (Who's up for an animated contest of freedom?)
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To: lizol

European Union = Herding cats


4 posted on 03/10/2006 1:31:25 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: lizol

My goodness! The Emperor has no clothes!


5 posted on 03/10/2006 1:33:19 PM PST by trimom
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To: trimom
Here's what the european union needs!


6 posted on 03/10/2006 2:06:50 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: USS Alaska

Some men are longer than others! :)


7 posted on 03/10/2006 2:43:59 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: steel_resolve
You know, with all due respect to Poland, what the hell? Why does every European think the US is going to foot the Defense bill in perpetiuty while they continue to spend an obscene amount on their welfare states? It's not going to happen folks. Time to get out of the house and start paying your own way.

Because it is in the US interest to defend Europe. It is in their interest, too, but because they abdicate their responsibility we have to pick up the slack. NATO also provides us with a forward staging area for all that we have to do on that side of the world, although a very expensive staging area. When it is no longer in our interest to be there or when we have another equally convenient locale, we will leave.

8 posted on 03/10/2006 2:50:39 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: curiosity
Go Lech Go! I love this man!

The Polish President is right and one of the few to say the Emporer has no clothes.

The left has taken over Europe and the EU was intended to be a way to counter balance to the USA, and provide a fig leaf of lost glory for old Europe. They would have had a better chance had they called it the USSE.

9 posted on 03/10/2006 2:55:22 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: lizol

The Eu could never be what the US is.

US-Group of states making up one country.

EU-Group of countries making up one bloc.(This version right here will lead to loss of nation soveriegnty)


They are to many languages,cultural differances, and to much history between the EU members. This will never have the unity of the US. I love you Poles, we are there for you and europe in your time of need. I also thank you all for helping the US in the war of terrorism.


10 posted on 03/10/2006 3:17:47 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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Why does every European think the US is going to foot the Defense bill in perpetiuty while they continue to spend an obscene amount on their welfare states?

I agree that it is in the US's interests to keep a stable Europe, but c'mon, it's about time they grew up and moved out of the house. All of Europe is essentially freeloading off of the American taxpayer, living the good life of the cradle-to-grave welfare state while the nasty cowboy imperialist Americans provide the money and manpower for that icky military thing.

Providing for defense is expensive, and Europe is glad to have the American taxpayers foot the bill. And just like anyone who doesn't really have to pay their own way, they develop bizarre ideas about who the 'real' bad people are.

11 posted on 03/10/2006 3:34:14 PM PST by Alien Gunfighter (Isolationism now! This ain't the 40s!)
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Pulling out of NATO is basically like a divorce, which reminds me of an old movie about divorce titled, "It's Cheaper to Keep Her".


12 posted on 03/10/2006 4:12:14 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: lizol

No truth in Pravda; no news in Izvestia.


13 posted on 03/10/2006 5:53:32 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: Alien Gunfighter

That's exactly what I'm sayin.


14 posted on 03/10/2006 11:31:02 PM PST by steel_resolve (Who's up for an animated contest of freedom?)
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To: lizol

This article is moronic but wait... it is Pravda!


15 posted on 03/10/2006 11:49:15 PM PST by Lukasz
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To: trickster-666

And where did you come from, troll?


19 posted on 03/11/2006 1:14:47 AM PST by darkangel82
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20 posted on 03/11/2006 1:23:57 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The U.N. Building. What a joke! They turned it into low rent housing. It's a dump.)
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