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Who'll Let the Docs Out?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 3/10/06 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 03/10/2006 10:08:06 PM PST by Enchante

Who'll Let the Docs Out? Bush wants to release the Saddam files but his intelligence chief stalls.

by Stephen F. Hayes 03/20/2006, Volume 011, Issue 25

On February 16, President George W. Bush assembled a small group of congressional Republicans for a briefing on Iraq. Vice President Dick Cheney and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley were there, and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad participated via teleconference from Baghdad. As the meeting was beginning, Mike Pence spoke up. The Indiana Republican, a leader of conservatives in the House, was seated next to Bush.

"Yesterday, Mr. President, the war had its best night on the network news since the war ended," Pence said.

"Is this the tapes thing?" Bush asked, referring to two ABC News reports that included excerpts of recordings Saddam Hussein made of meetings with his war cabinet in the years before the U.S. invasion. Bush had not seen the newscasts but had been briefed on them.

Pence framed his response as a question, quoting Abraham Lincoln: "One of your Republican predecessors said, 'Give the people the facts and the Republic will be saved.' There are 3,000 hours of Saddam tapes and millions of pages of other documents that we captured after the war. When will the American public get to see this information?"

Bush replied that he wanted the documents released. He turned to Hadley and asked for an update. Hadley explained that John Negroponte, Bush's Director of National Intelligence, "owns the documents" and that DNI lawyers were deciding how they might be handled.

Bush extended his arms in exasperation and worried aloud that people who see the documents in 10 years will wonder why they weren't released sooner. "If I knew then what I know now," Bush said in the voice of a war skeptic, "I would have been more supportive of the war."

Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out." The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. And as the briefing ended, he approached Pence, poked a finger in the congressman's chest, and thanked him for raising the issue. When Pence began to restate his view that the documents should be released, Bush put his hand up, as if to say, "I hear you. It will be taken care of."

It was not the first time Bush has made clear his desire to see the Iraq documents released. On November 30, 2005, he gave a speech at the U.S. Naval Academy. Four members of Congress attended: Rep. Pete Hoekstra, the Michigan Republican who chairs the House Intelligence Committee; Sen. John Warner, the Virginia Republican who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee; Rep. John Shadegg of Arizona; and Pence. After his speech, Bush visited with the lawmakers for 10 minutes in a holding room to the side of the stage. Hoekstra asked Bush about the documents and the president said he was pressing to have them released.

Says Pence: "I left both meetings with the unambiguous impression that the president of the United States wants these documents to reach the American people."

Negroponte never got the message. Or he is choosing to ignore it. He has done nothing to expedite the exploitation of the documents. And he continues to block the growing congressional effort, led by Hoekstra, to have the documents released.

For months, Negroponte has argued privately that while the documents may be of historical interest, they are not particularly valuable as intelligence product. A statement by his office in response to the recordings aired by ABC said, "Analysts from the CIA and the DIA reviewed the translations and found that, while fascinating from a historical perspective, the tapes do not reveal anything that changes their postwar analysis of Iraq's weapons programs."

Left unanswered was what the analysts made of the Iraqi official who reported to Saddam that components of the regime's nuclear program had been "transported out of Iraq." Who gave this report to Saddam and when did he give it? How were the materials "transported out of Iraq"? Where did they go? Where are they now? And what, if anything, does this tell us about Saddam's nuclear program? It may be that the intelligence community has answers to these questions. If so, they have not shared them. If not, the tapes are far more than "fascinating from a historical perspective."

Officials involved with DOCEX--as the U.S. government's document exploitation project is known to insiders--tell The Weekly Standard that only some 3 percent of the 2 million captured documents have been fully translated and analyzed. No one familiar with the project argues that exploiting these documents has been a priority of the U.S. intelligence community.

Negroponte's argument rests on the assumption that the history captured in these documents would not be important to those officials--elected and unelected, executive branch and legislative--whose job it is to craft U.S. foreign and national security policy. He's mistaken.

An example: On April 13, 2003, the San Francisco Chronicle published an exhaustive article based on documents reporter Robert Collier unearthed in an Iraqi Intelligence safehouse in Baghdad. The claims were stunning.

The documents found Thursday and Friday in a Baghdad office of the Mukhabarat, the Iraqi secret police, indicate that at least five agents graduated Sept. 15 from a two--week course in surveillance and eavesdropping techniques, according to certificates issued to the Iraqi agents by the "Special Training Center" in Moscow . . .

Details about the Mukhabarat's Russian spy training emerged from some Iraqi agents' personnel folders, hidden in a back closet in a center for electronic surveillance located in a four-story mansion in the Mesbah district, Baghdad's wealthiest neighborhood. . . .

Three of the five Iraqi agents graduated late last year from a two-week course in "Phototechnical and Optical Means," given by the Special Training Center in Moscow, while two graduated from the center's two-week course in "Acoustic Surveillance Means."

One of the graduating officers, identified in his personnel file as Sami Rakhi Mohammad Jasim al-Mansouri, 46, is described as being connected to "the general management of counterintelligence" in the south of the country. . . .

His certificate, which bears the double-eagle symbol of the Russian Federation and a stylized star symbol that resembles the seal of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, uses a shortened version of al-Mansouri's name.

It says he entered the Moscow-based Special Training Center's "advanced" course in "acoustic surveillance means" on Sept. 2, 2002, and graduated on Sept. 15.

Four days later, the Chronicle reported that the "Moscow-based Special Training Center," was the Russian foreign intelligence service, known as SVR, and the SVR confirmed the training:

A spokesman for the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), Boris Labusov, acknowledged that Iraqi secret police agents had been trained by his agency but said the training was for nonmilitary purposes, such as fighting crime and terrorism.

Yet documents discovered in Baghdad by The Chronicle last week suggest that the spying techniques the Iraqi agents learned in Russia may have been used against foreign diplomats and civilians, raising doubt about the accuracy of Labusov's characterization.

Labusov, the press officer for the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, confirmed that the certificates discovered by The Chronicle were genuine and that the Iraqis had received the training the documents described.

The Russians declared early in the U.N. process that they preferred inspections to war. Perhaps we now know why. Still, it is notable that at precisely the same time Russian intelligence was training Iraqi operatives, senior Russian government officials were touting their alliance with the United States. Russian foreign minister Boris Malakhov proclaimed that the two countries were "partners in the anti-terror coalition" and Putin spokesman Sergei Prikhodko declared, "Russia and the United States have a common goal regarding the Iraqi issue." (Of course, these men may have been in the dark on what their intelligence service was up to.) On November 8, 2002, six weeks after the Iraqis completed their Russian training, Russia voted in favor of U.N. Resolution 1441, which threatened "serious consequences" for continued Iraqi defiance on its weapons programs.

Maybe this is mere history to Negroponte. But it has practical implications for policymakers assessing Russia's role as go-between in the ongoing nuclear negotiations with Iran.

Perhaps anticipating the weakness of his "mere history" argument, Negroponte abruptly shifted his position last week. He still opposes releasing the documents, only now he claims that the information in these documents is so valuable that it cannot be made public. Negroponte gave a statement to Fox News responding to Hoekstra's call to release the captured documents. "These documents have provided, and continue to provide, actionable intelligence to ongoing operations. . . . It would be ill-advised to release these materials without careful screening because the material includes sensitive and potentially harmful information."

This new position raises two obvious questions: If the documents have provided actionable intelligence, why has the intelligence community exploited so few of them? And why hasn't Negroponte demanded more money and manpower for the DOCEX program?

Sadly, these obvious questions have an obvious answer. The intelligence community is not interested in releasing documents captured in postwar Afghanistan and Iraq. Why this is we can't be sure. But Pete Hoekstra offers one distinct possibility.

"They are State Department people who want to make no waves and don't want to do anything that would upset anyone," he says.

This is not idle speculation. In meetings with Hoekstra, Negroponte and his staff have repeatedly expressed concern that releasing this information might embarrass our allies. Who does Negroponte have in mind?

Allies like Russia?

Hoekstra says Negroponte's intransigence is forcing him to get the documents out "the hard way." The House Intelligence chairman has introduced a bill (H.R. 4869) that would require the DNI to begin releasing the captured documents. Although Negroponte continues to argue against releasing the documents in internal discussions, on March 9, he approached Hoekstra with a counterproposal. Negroponte offered to release some documents labeled "No Intelligence Value," and indicated his willingness to review other documents for potential release, subject to a scrub for sensitive material.

And there, of course, is the potential problem. Negroponte could have been releasing this information all along, but chose not to. So, in a way, nothing really changes. Still, for Hoekstra, this is the first sign of any willingness to release the documents.

"I'm encouraged that John is taking another look at it," Hoekstra said last Thursday. "But I want a system that is biased in favor of declassification. I want some assurance that they aren't just picking the stuff that's garbage and releasing that. If we're only declassifying maps of Baghdad, I'm not going to be happy."

He continued: "There may be many documents that relate to Iraqi WMD programs. Those should be released. Same thing with documents that show links to terrorism. They have to release documents on topics of interest to the American people and they have to give me some kind of schedule. What's the time frame? I don't have any idea."

Hoekstra is not going away. "We're going to ride herd on this. This is a step in the right direction, but I am in no way claiming victory. I want these documents out."

So does President Bush. You'd think that would settle it.

Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

© Copyright 2005, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bush; cheney; iraq; saddam; wmds
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What's going on with our government??? More concerned about protecting Russia from embarrassment than with letting the American public (and the world) know how well justified the Iraq war really was/is???? This is madness!!
1 posted on 03/10/2006 10:08:11 PM PST by Enchante
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To: Enchante

The huge problem with following Negroponte's proposal to release only documents with "no intelligence value" is that of course those are most likely to be the more minor docs of purely "historical" interest (at best). Anything that's truly explosive would be likely to still have "intelligence value" especially if it referred to WMDs going to Syria, the role of Russia (or France, Germany et al) in helping Iraq, etc.

I realize that there can be serious dilemmas between preserving intel value in secret and getting info into the public, but I fear that people like Negroponte and the intel bureaucracies are putting NO WEIGHT at all on the enormous damage the USA has suffered and continues to suffer from the LACK of public information on what really went on in Iraq before the war, the role of Syria, Russia, et al....... not to say that there is not already plenty of damning or at least suggestive info available, but if there are any "smoking gun" tapes and/or documents that would show conclusively that WMDs went to Syria, that Russia helped or even carried out this process entirely, etc. etc. then these things MUST be made public asap. The severe damage to US credibility and judgment that has been allowed to occur should have been challenged far sooner and far more vigorously by this administration. That is not merely a question of the "Bush legacy" - it seriously affects our ability to carry out effective policy toward Iran and North Korea, etc.


2 posted on 03/10/2006 10:17:39 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Enchante

It would be foolhardy to release the tons of documents and tapes without knowing what's in them. Negroponte's hesitation is warranted. And it says something very good about Bush that he is respectful of the potential national security issues involved. A lesser president (such as his predecessor) would not have such qualms.

It is not "madness", unless you value politics over national security.


3 posted on 03/10/2006 10:18:15 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: Enchante

All this takes is an order from the President. Declassify and release all documents and let the chips fall where they may. If it embarrasses our allies or the previous administration(s), so be it. Our crediblity should not suffer just to cover France/GermanyRussia's collective @ass.


4 posted on 03/10/2006 10:22:14 PM PST by jess35
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I'm not suggesting such an "uncontrolled" release of documents that have not even been reviewed. I AM suggesting that it is "madness" that 3 years after we went into Iraq so little has been done by our government to counter the critics, both domestic and foreign, who have savaged our standing and credibility in the world. As I said in my 2nd post above, I am not denying there are very serious dilemmas between preserving intel in secret vs. public justifications, BUT I am concerned that keeping everything secret has allowed our credibiity to be SAVAGED and that in fact has grave effects upon our ability to deal with Iran and North Korea, our ability to act forcefully on intel in the future, etc. I'm not denying the dilemma, I'm saying that all weight seems to have been placed only on one side of the scales.


5 posted on 03/10/2006 10:22:28 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Hussein is no longer a problem. His administration is history. Having the documents released and all the players identified has far more value than hiding it all and trying to play kiss up to people/governments who should be excoriated in the world press.


6 posted on 03/10/2006 10:25:10 PM PST by jess35
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To: Enchante

Previous post - not that there is anything wrong with that.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1594192/posts


7 posted on 03/10/2006 10:25:34 PM PST by Daralundy
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To: Enchante

Makes even the most hardened supporter wonder what the hell is going on.


8 posted on 03/10/2006 10:26:42 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
"It is not "madness", unless you value politics over national security"

It is not about "mere politics" in the Clintonian sense - it is about whether we can deal effectively with Iran and North Korea when almost all of the world (and now a majority of the US public) believes that Bush/Cheney blundered badly on Iraq. I can't weigh all the secrets in these docs that we might really have reason to keep, but I do know that US credibility has been eviscerated with a large majority of leaders in the world and THAT is a very serious national security problem, not simply a question of domestic politics. Also, if (heaven forbid) the 'Rats re-take Congress or even the presidency in the next couple of election cycles it will be because this administration (which I generally support very strongly) has been so inept at defending itself against the lying MSM and 'Rat onslaught.
9 posted on 03/10/2006 10:27:48 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Daralundy

Hmmmm.... I searched, both for the whole title and for any word.... why do searches sometimes not work?? Is there a time lag between when an article is posted and when it can be picked up by search?


10 posted on 03/10/2006 10:29:18 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Enchante

I have no idea why this has not been a bigger story. All I can ponder is that maybe they're not quite as aggressive just now, but come 2006, things will change.

That does us no good between now and then, and as you've stated, the damage has been done. No thanks to our media or our "We oppose the war, but we really, we promise, support the troops!" crowd.


11 posted on 03/10/2006 10:29:19 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: Enchante

I think this beckons some our nation's finest lyricists:

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12 posted on 03/10/2006 10:32:22 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: Enchante
Okay, I understand your position better now, and I generally agree. Let's just not be hasty.

Example: It's been reported that Russia might have helped Saddam spirit his WMDs to Syria. That might well have happened. It might, in fact, have happened with our knowledge and approval, but for a hundred reasons we might not want that broadcast at this time.

For sure, let's get the more illuminating documents out there, but at a time of our choosing. How about: get the review done in time for the midterm elections?
13 posted on 03/10/2006 10:32:28 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I don't think we disagree, then. I'm only in favor of a sensible and carefully weighed series of releases, not some mindless dump of docs. If we did have knowledge of Russia moving WMDs and perhaps even approved of it so that our troops would not be put at additional risk, then I can understand why we might not rush to embarrass Russia. If, on the other hand, we are only protecting Russia because of very nominal cooperation in the War on Terror (which is greatly in their self-interest due to the problems in Chechnya, etc.) then I'd be far less inclined to keep protecting Russia from any embarrassment.

I do worry that it's mainly a combination of bureaucratic inertia and rampant butt-covering CYA by hack Clintonista bureaucrats burrowed into the agencies that has caused most of the intransigence on this issue, but I hope that Negroponte and others will finally recognize that the damage to our government's credibility has been severe and is itself a grave national security problem (since we now face far greater challenges than before to mobilizing domestic and international support for any serious actions against WMDs and in the War on Terror, etc.).


14 posted on 03/10/2006 10:41:00 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Enchante
For months, Negroponte has argued privately that while the documents may be of historical interest, they are not particularly valuable as intelligence product.

If this is true, then there is no reason why the documents can't be released immediately. Let the people read the documents and we can judge for ourselves rather it's just interesting back-story or ground-shaking information.

15 posted on 03/10/2006 10:55:14 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Enchante; kristinn

I'd like to suggest that freepers get back to activism. What we do best rather than arguing among ourselves.

We should write hard letters, or at least call, people who can take action on this matter. Those people would be, at a minimum, Senator McCain, Condi Rice, Karl Rove, President Bush, Senator Warner, Senator Cornyn, Senator Allen and I'm sure some others.

In those letters or phone calls, we should reference the article by name, author and title with a quick synopsis of what the article details, and then ask if Negroponte is ignoring a direct order from the President of the United States of America.

I am drafting my letter today and compiling my list.

Kristinn: Is there any way you can either copy this article and hand it out to people on the Hill, or get it to someone who will take action?


16 posted on 03/11/2006 5:35:54 AM PST by Peach
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Hey, lets just append a bill to some appropriations bill that they must all be released... that seems to work every time. /rolleyes

Seriously though, this pisses me off that these are not all translated by now. Release them ALL, too many big players would block the release if it takes a year to process.

Its quite clear that Negroponte has NO interest in doing anything with them.

What in the hell is up with first saying "I won't release because they are irrelevant" and then saying "I won't release because they are too valuable and important"

Sounds like Bush is getting pissed about it too, for EXAXTLY the right reasons.

Not sure if its some "big players" who have too much invested in the "Bush Lied" line to allow anything to discredit it, or just the simple reluctance to 'embarrass' our 'allies' (like we just did VERY PUBLICALLY to UAE)... either way it STINKS!
17 posted on 03/11/2006 7:14:37 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: Enchante
"For months, Negroponte has argued privately that while the documents may be of historical interest, they are not particularly valuable as intelligence product. A statement by his office in response to the recordings aired by ABC said, "Analysts from the CIA and the DIA reviewed the translations and found that, while fascinating from a historical perspective, the tapes do not reveal anything that changes their postwar analysis of Iraq's weapons programs.""

I read that and got a huge sense that Negroponte does not want to release info because it might help Bush. Is Negroponte trust worthy? Could he be screwing the pooch?
18 posted on 03/11/2006 7:14:44 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Peach

Peach - you're the best. Exactly right.


19 posted on 03/11/2006 7:22:54 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: FreedomNeocon
JUST THE BEST PARTS (condensed qutoes) ;)




On February 16, President George W. Bush assembled a small group of congressional Republicans for a briefing on Iraq.

"Yesterday, Mr. President, the war had its best night on the network news since the war ended," Pence said.

"Is this the tapes thing?" Bush asked

Pence framed his response as a question, quoting Abraham Lincoln: "One of your Republican predecessors said, 'Give the people the facts and the Republic will be saved.' There are 3,000 hours of Saddam tapes and millions of pages of other documents that we captured after the war. When will the American public get to see this information?"

Bush replied that he wanted the documents released. He turned to Hadley and asked for an update. Hadley explained that John Negroponte, Bush's Director of National Intelligence, "owns the documents" and that DNI lawyers were deciding how they might be handled.

Bush extended his arms in exasperation and worried aloud that people who see the documents in 10 years will wonder why they weren't released sooner. "If I knew then what I know now," Bush said in the voice of a war skeptic, "I would have been more supportive of the war."

Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out."

For months, Negroponte has argued privately that while the documents may be of historical interest, they are not particularly valuable as intelligence product. A statement by his office in response to the recordings aired by ABC said, "Analysts from the CIA and the DIA reviewed the translations and found that, while fascinating from a historical perspective, the tapes do not reveal anything that changes their postwar analysis of Iraq's weapons programs."

Officials involved with DOCEX--as the U.S. government's document exploitation project is known to insiders--tell The Weekly Standard that only some 3 percent of the 2 million captured documents have been fully translated and analyzed.

Perhaps anticipating the weakness of his "mere history" argument, Negroponte abruptly shifted his position last week. He still opposes releasing the documents, only now he claims that the information in these documents is so valuable that it cannot be made public. Negroponte gave a statement to Fox News responding to Hoekstra's call to release the captured documents. "These documents have provided, and continue to provide, actionable intelligence to ongoing operations. . . . It would be ill-advised to release these materials without careful screening because the material includes sensitive and potentially harmful information."

This new position raises two obvious questions: If the documents have provided actionable intelligence, why has the intelligence community exploited so few of them? And why hasn't Negroponte demanded more money and manpower for the DOCEX program?

Sadly, these obvious questions have an obvious answer. The intelligence community is not interested in releasing documents captured in postwar Afghanistan and Iraq. Why this is we can't be sure. But Pete Hoekstra offers one distinct possibility.

"They are State Department people who want to make no waves and don't want to do anything that would upset anyone," he says.

This is not idle speculation. In meetings with Hoekstra, Negroponte and his staff have repeatedly expressed concern that releasing this information might embarrass our allies.

Although Negroponte continues to argue against releasing the documents in internal discussions, on March 9, he approached Hoekstra with a counterproposal. Negroponte offered to release some documents labeled "No Intelligence Value," and indicated his willingness to review other documents for potential release, subject to a scrub for sensitive material.

And there, of course, is the potential problem. Negroponte could have been releasing this information all along, but chose not to. So, in a way, nothing really changes. Hoekstra is not going away. "We're going to ride herd on this. This is a step in the right direction, but I am in no way claiming victory. I want these documents out."

So does President Bush. You'd think that would settle it.
20 posted on 03/11/2006 7:26:23 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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