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Pulpit politics divide Unitarian church (Austin, TX)
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF ^ | Saturday, March 11, 2006 | By Eileen E. Flynn

Posted on 03/11/2006 4:55:55 AM PST by Arrowhead1952

Unitarian minister gets mixed reviews for sermon accusing Bush administration of terrorism.

By Eileen E. Flynn

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Saturday, March 11, 2006

Unitarian minister Davidson Loehr was roiling with anger when he sat down to finish writing his sermon on a recent Friday. He'd been reading "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins, who paints the U.S. government as a corrupt force willing to sacrifice people for profits.

And that Sunday, Feb. 12, Loehr let his fury loose in the sermon's conclusion.

The Bush administration, he told members of the First Unitarian Universalist Church, orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks to fulfill its plan to establish a new world order. Several church members walked out; others stood and applauded.

Weeks later, controversy over Loehr's sermon is still buzzing on the Internet. Loehr is being blasted from inside and outside his church by some who question not just his views, but his use of the pulpit to advance them.

Though standing by his premise, Loehr now wishes he'd given his words more thought.

"I didn't do research, and I flung out some Web sites," he said Thursday. "It was a very sloppy thing to do."

In the largely liberal North Austin congregation, Loehr normally doesn't fret over criticizing the administration or advancing controversial religious ideas. He recently published a book titled "America, Fascism and God: Sermons from a Heretical Preacher."

But Feb. 12 was different, longtime church member Corinna Whiteaker-Lewis said.

"He accused people of murder without significant evidence to back it up," she said.

Whiteaker-Lewis and her husband were among those who walked out on Loehr's sermon.

Among those who stayed, Loehr said, about 80 people stood to applaud.

A heated debate followed on an Internet discussion forum.

Some church members expressed outrage and concern that Loehr damaged the whole church's credibility. Others supported the minister and pointed to the shared ideal of a free pulpit that did not censor speakers.

Ryan Hill said he doesn't subscribe to Loehr's conspiracy theory, "but the thing that bugs me is, (in) this supposedly liberal church, you express an idea that's sufficiently weird, and people freak out."

In the meantime, Loehr removed the controversial portion of the sermon from the church Web site and wrote an essay to clarify his conclusions.

That essay, posted on a different Web site, claims the United States government planned to establish a "New World Order," which would benefit the wealthy.

The United States, Loehr writes, wanted a presence in the Middle East to control the world's oil supply. But, in order to rally the American public for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, high-ranking Bush officials executed the Sept. 11 attacks and blamed them on al Qaeda.

Loehr said he's not ashamed of his beliefs, that he's going by the available facts. "We have to do what we can do to try to seek truth," he said.

The Rev. Ryan Rush, pastor of Bannockburn Baptist Church in Southwest Austin, derided the sermon as absurd.

In the wake of sensitivity over mixing religion and politics, Rush added, "I find it very ironic that those who accuse conservatives of politicizing from the pulpit would make such an outlandish and absurd statement in the name of truth."

The Rev. Jim Rigby, pastor of St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church in North Austin, took a sympathetic view.

"I would rather focus on the threats to democracy that we know about," Rigby said. "But I also think it's a shame that somebody can bring up issues, and it's not acceptable to even explore those as possibilities."

Church board member Jo Soto urged people to put the sermon in perspective.

What makes Loehr a valuable speaker is his ability to challenge members, she said.

Soto declined to comment on whether the sermon jeopardized Loehr's job, but Loehr said he's not worried.

"People are very fierce here about saying they want freedom of the pulpit," he said. "At the same time . . . there are also responsibilities of the pulpit. And I think people are saying . . . I treated an extremely important topic in ways that did not show good scholarship."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: dummie; moonbat; religiousleft; unitarians
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On the Web: To read Davidson Loehr's essay addressing his theories on the Sept. 11 attacks, go to www.propeace .net/node/1076. To read part of the Feb. 12 sermon and Loehr's explanation for removing it, go to http://www.austinuu.org/sermons/2006/2006-02-12-DemonsoftheHeart.html

Just another example of the IDIOTS living in the Berkley of Texas.

1 posted on 03/11/2006 4:55:58 AM PST by Arrowhead1952
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To: BJClinton; txflake; ValerieUSA; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Jarhead1957

Austin moonbat preacher ping.


2 posted on 03/11/2006 5:02:53 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

John Perkins is a loon. Naturally, C-SPIN played his talk about book endlessly (many, many repeats of that show) a few years back on Book TV.


3 posted on 03/11/2006 5:03:14 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Arrowhead1952

One thing for certain - time for the IRS to start taxing anything that comes out of the collection plate in this church.


4 posted on 03/11/2006 5:10:27 AM PST by onevoter
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To: Cecily; onevoter

One part of this article makes me think this pastor (??) visits the DUmp on a regular basis.

**But, in order to rally the American public for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, high-ranking Bush officials executed the Sept. 11 attacks and blamed them on al Qaeda.**

That reads just like some examples of the DUmmie FUnnie threads. This pastor (??) is a loon.


5 posted on 03/11/2006 5:18:41 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Some church members expressed outrage and concern that Loehr damaged the whole church's credibility.

The presence of the sentence above in an article about Unitarians requires that you re-post the article with a non sequitur alert in the headline. Credibility and Unitarianism do not even have a nodding acquaintance.

6 posted on 03/11/2006 5:23:13 AM PST by T-Bird45
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To: Arrowhead1952

You're right - this is so far out there that it is hard to believe this guy is even given a pulpit.


7 posted on 03/11/2006 5:25:25 AM PST by onevoter
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To: Arrowhead1952
Ryan Hill said he doesn't subscribe to Loehr's conspiracy theory, "but the thing that bugs me is, (in) this supposedly liberal church, you express an idea that's sufficiently weird, and people freak out."

Truly amazing. I mean, you'd think he was advocating sex with sheep or something. OOPS, forgot: The Unitarians already have a commitment ceremony for that!

8 posted on 03/11/2006 5:28:06 AM PST by madprof98
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To: Arrowhead1952

I watched Perkins discuss his "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" on C-SPAN. He came across as either stupid or a con-man, but his line would appeal to a liberal Unitarian preacher - who seems to be more interested in the economics of hydrocarbons than in theology.


9 posted on 03/11/2006 5:30:00 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: T-Bird45

You took the words right out of my mouth.


10 posted on 03/11/2006 5:30:39 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Unitarian = liberal feel-good social meeting. NOT a religion, contrary to mainstream press.


11 posted on 03/11/2006 5:58:55 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: T-Bird45
Credibility and Unitarianism do not even have a nodding acquaintance.

LOL! Good one.

12 posted on 03/11/2006 6:03:22 AM PST by WarEagle (This ISN'T Karl Rove's fault...)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I think he should have the right to preach crazy jeremiads even on political matters.

OTOH, someone should ask him what he thinks about the IRS investigating conservative ministers who mention politics from the pulpit.

13 posted on 03/11/2006 6:04:27 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: T-Bird45

What can one expect from a church whose foundation in America is dated from 1815 and the departure of 120 New England Congregational churches who chose to follow the Arian Heresy?


14 posted on 03/11/2006 6:04:53 AM PST by gaspar
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To: gaspar

Unitarianism is predicated on the belief that there is, at most, one God.


15 posted on 03/11/2006 6:15:44 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Snickersnee

if God is infinite, it seems to me that trying to count "how many" He is, would be doomed to failure.
it's sort of like trying to decide if he is a million miles tall or two million miles tall.


16 posted on 03/11/2006 6:45:04 AM PST by drhogan
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To: Cecily
Naturally, C-SPIN played his talk about book endlessly (many, many repeats
of that show) a few years back on Book TV.


I think that interview has been played on "BookTV" (C-Span2, weekends)
at least twice this year.
17 posted on 03/11/2006 7:08:52 AM PST by VOA
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To: Arrowhead1952

Doesn't everyone know the Unitarian Church is just the loony left at prayer? Why the surprise?


18 posted on 03/11/2006 7:18:33 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Arrowhead1952
Ryan Hill said,..."but the thing that bugs me is, (in) this supposedly liberal church, you express an idea that's sufficiently weird, and people freak out."

"Yeeeaah maaaan, like when I'm smokin' a reefer in the church's bathroom, people, like, freak out... because I don't have enough to share..."

So much for the congregants of THAT "church."

19 posted on 03/12/2006 6:37:46 PM PST by fwdude (Prohibition----->Taboo--->Tolerance--->Acceptance-->Mandate->Enforcement)
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To: Snickersnee

Actually, from what I have seen of the Unitarians and liberals in general is that you can have as many or as few gods AS YOU WISH. They just can't be named Yahweh!


20 posted on 03/13/2006 7:22:55 AM PST by solace68
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