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To: marron
"You could ask the same thing of a Christian."

Are you kidding? The question as to whether a Christian can be a American patriot and a loyal citizen??

Wow, I've seen some ignorant posts, but this one is a beaut.

40 posted on 03/14/2006 6:47:14 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Not at all. Look at the first two lines

Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia. Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

My allegiance is to Christ first and foremost. If my nation does something that my Christian faith is in opposition with, should I still be required to hold an allegiance to the government and support what my nation does? The Bible has told us there will come a time the world hates Christians. This doesn't mean just outside of the borders of this nation of states, it means everywhere. When that time comes (and it's quickly on its way) where should my allegiance lie then?

54 posted on 03/14/2006 7:05:14 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: F16Fighter; rogue yam
Are you kidding? The question as to whether a Christian can be a American patriot and a loyal citizen?? Wow, I've seen some ignorant posts, but this one is a beaut.

Maybe. Has it not occurred to you how unique and rare it is to live in a country where love of God and love of country are so closely in harmony? We always put God first, always we put conscience first, and yet we have no qualms at all in loving this country with a full heart.

This country was built on conscience, and the freedom to serve conscience first. How rare is that? Very rare; its the only one. There almost aren't any others.

Soldiers who serve this country do so with a clear conscience, with very few exceptions. You must realize how rare that is on this earth, where so many of this world's soldiers serve governments that are little more than mafias with law degrees.

Our army is one of the few on this earth in which soldiers are counseled to defy an "illegal" order, which is generally any order that would shock the conscience. That is very rare on this earth. Most soldiers in most armies are taught to put conscience on hold during their term of service. They are taught not to question orders. Only in an American army are the men expected to defy an immoral order.

There is always tension between conscience and country, and we always, in the end, resolve it in favor of conscience. Thats who we are as a country. It forces the country to follow the collective conscience of its people, rather than the other way around.

I'm sorry if my post seemed a little obtuse. The answer was obvious; it just struck me how rare that was. And how important it is that we put people of character in high places.

114 posted on 03/14/2006 8:29:53 PM PST by marron
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