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Fantasies About Jihad-Only now are Europeans realizing the jihad is upon them.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 15, 2006 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/15/2006 4:55:42 AM PST by SJackson

I recently spoke at the Pim Fortuyn Memorial Conference in The Hague, which focused on Europe’s growing immigration crisis and imminent Islamization; Bat Ye’or, Ibn Warraq, Daniel Pipes, Douglas Murray and others were also featured speakers. The first night we were in The Hague there was a reception for us at the American Embassy. The new Ambassador, Roland E. Arnall, hadn't arrived yet, but I had a pleasant conversation with our host, Deputy Chief of Mission Chat Blakeman.

Blakeman introduced me to an official of the Dutch Ministry of Integration, who spends her days in dialogue with Dutch imams and other Muslim leaders. We began a wide-ranging discussion about the nature of the jihad threat and the proper response to it. In the course of this I asked her how many Muslim leaders she encountered who were ready to lay aside attachment to the Sharia, accept the Dutch governmental and societal structure and the parameters of Dutch pluralism, and be willing to live in Dutch society as equals to, not superiors of, non-Muslims indefinitely. She told me that there were only very few, but insisted that we had to work with those few, and indeed had to place our faith and hope in them, for otherwise the future was impossibly bleak. I asked her if she had read the Qur’an. She told me no, she hadn’t, and wouldn’t, because she didn’t want to lose all hope -- and because whatever was in it, she still had to work to find some accord with the Muslim leaders, no matter what.

 

I urged her to ask the imams with whom she spoke questions that made their loyalties clear, insofar as they would answer them honestly. I urged her to ask them whether they would like to see Sharia implemented in the Netherlands at any time in the future, and whether they were working toward that end in any way, peaceful as well as violent. I asked her to ask them whether they would be content to live as equals with non-Muslims indefinitely in a Dutch pluralistic society, or whether they would ultimately hope to institute Islamic supremacy and the subjugation of non-Muslims.

 

She couldn’t ask them those questions, she told me. Such questions would immediately put their relationship on a confrontational plane, when cooperation was what they wanted, not confrontation. But, I sputtered, you’re not getting cooperation as it is. The confrontation is already upon us. What is to be gained by pretending that it isn’t happening?

 

I don’t envy this articulate and intelligent young lady her job. But her remarks reminded me of a message I received not long ago, after I had criticized former Indonesian President Abdurrahman Wahid’s bit of Wall Street Journal puffery about how Islam is really a religion of peace. A reader took me to task for “suggesting that Islam is irredeemable in some sense.” He asked: “if we assume this to be true, what is to be done. What would Mr. Spencer suggest that this or any American president do to deal with this reality. Wahid was thought to be a step in the right direction when he was president of the extremely large population of Indonesia, but if he is not much more than a ‘trumped-up counterfeit,’ where do we go from here.”

 

Where do we go from here? We go to reality. We stop deceiving ourselves and allowing ourselves to be deceived by others. If Wahid was being disingenuous about the teachings of Islam, then he doesn’t offer Westerners hope. He offers them a weak reed that will collapse when they need it the most. Why? Because Muslims who are attracted by the siren song of jihad will see through his pleasing platitudes and recognize how slim a case he really has with reference to the Islamic texts. Westerners can be fooled by him, and Muslims can’t. The young lady in the Dutch Ministry of Integration, despite her best efforts to ignore or deny this reality, kept coming up against it: she found that only a small minority of Muslim leaders in Holland were at all interested in working toward integration.

 

Eventually the Dutch Ministry of Integration and other administrative bodies in the Western world are going to have to come to grips with the implications of that fact, and with the implications of other facts about Islamic jihad that so far they have preferred to pretend did not exist. What would I suggest that the President do about this reality? I would suggest that he acknowledge it as a reality. That he address the nation and the world, and tell them that the United States is going to lead the resistance to jihad and Sharia supremacism in the name of equality of rights and dignity of all peoples. That any state that oppresses non-Muslims or denies them equality of rights in any way will receive no American aid whatsoever. That any state that allows the idea that Muslims must make war against non-Muslims until they either convert to Islam or submit to the Islamic social order will be no friend of the United States. That the idea that the U.S. Constitution should one day be replaced by Islamic Sharia, whether by violent or non-violent means, will be understood within the United States as seditious.

 

The Pim Fortuyn Memorial Conference was one small effort to bring Dutch officials, and ultimately the West at large, to confront the realities of our world that the world is doing all it can to deny. Bat Ye’or spoke about how European officials themselves had brought Eurabia into being by encouraging immigration while eschewing assimilation at the insistence of the Arab League. Only now are Europeans realizing that their culture, their soul, has been sold by their leaders for oil, and the jihad is upon them.

 

It is a reality so bleak that it is no wonder that most officials prefer fantasy. But they won’t be able to maintain their comfortable illusions much longer.


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1 posted on 03/15/2006 4:55:45 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
We Americans will continue to be told 'islam is a religion of peace'. Americans know the truth about islam. Our leaders are either blind, don't care, or the money paid by islam is too enormous to argue with. I believe it to be the money.
2 posted on 03/15/2006 5:02:12 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: SJackson; All
I've been beating on the Drum, "The dangers of Militant Islam," for years.
Let those with eyes, see...

Everything I have found about Islam, a Religion of Peace®? ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, astonishing and repugnant pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:

Does that "salute" remind you of the "followers of the broken cross?" It should...

...read my links- you won't like what you see.

3 posted on 03/15/2006 5:02:37 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking the keyword or topic Israel.

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4 posted on 03/15/2006 5:05:56 AM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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Screw europe....what about us. I have not gone into a 7-11 or a gas station or a dunken donuts for years that were not run by middle easterners.

Whats with the Dems and Republicans who alowed these immigrations to procede.

This looks to me to be a future shooting war here at home (I am ready).

Damn all these politicians to hell!


5 posted on 03/15/2006 5:07:31 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: backhoe
Your drum is redundant. "The dangers of Militant Islam" works exactly the same.
6 posted on 03/15/2006 5:08:26 AM PST by AntiGuv
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To: SJackson
She told me that there were only very few, but insisted that we had to work with those few, and indeed had to place our faith and hope in them, for otherwise the future was impossibly bleak. I asked her if she had read the Qur’an. She told me no, she hadn’t, and wouldn’t, because she didn’t want to lose all hope -- and because whatever was in it, she still had to work to find some accord with the Muslim leaders, no matter what.

Truly startling.

7 posted on 03/15/2006 5:09:02 AM PST by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: SJackson

What are some recommended solutions, and how would they be implemented?


8 posted on 03/15/2006 5:09:04 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: SJackson

bump


9 posted on 03/15/2006 5:10:03 AM PST by Blackirish (What kind of name is Plame anyway?)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

For the Netherlands, I'd recommend halting all immigration & naturalization of non EU citizens. They are almost past the point of no return as it is..


10 posted on 03/15/2006 5:10:43 AM PST by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv

and there is a report of a car bomb in Paris this morning with one dead.


11 posted on 03/15/2006 5:13:34 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: From One - Many
We Americans will continue to be told 'islam is a religion of peace'. Americans know the truth about islam. Our leaders are either blind, don't care, or the money paid by islam is too enormous to argue with. I believe it to be the money

And their haterd for Christianity.

12 posted on 03/15/2006 5:14:43 AM PST by sport
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To: AntiGuv
re ;For the Netherlands, I'd recommend halting all immigration & naturalization of non EU citizens.

You will find that most EU nations are now starting to implement a skilled immigration policy only.

Only immigrants with a recognizable skill will be allowed entry.

14 posted on 03/15/2006 5:15:13 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Ping to an Islam in Europe story. Interested in your take.
15 posted on 03/15/2006 5:16:20 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: sport

very good point.


16 posted on 03/15/2006 5:17:07 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: workerbee
It is startling.

The enemy's playbook is right there in plain sight, and she refuses to read it?

17 posted on 03/15/2006 5:17:17 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SJackson
SOME Europeans are only now realizing that jihad is upon them
I was aware of the danger as much as 25 years ago
Only to be called a paranoid freak , but even that is changing
18 posted on 03/15/2006 5:20:44 AM PST by 1903A3
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To: Vaquero

"I have not gone into a 7-11 or a gas station or a dunken donuts for years that were not run by middle easterners."

Just remember they are not all Muslims. Some are Christians and some are Hindus. The arab Christians around here usually have some sign of it in their stores.


19 posted on 03/15/2006 5:22:37 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Deport every muslim currently residing in the United States.

Stay out of Countries controlled by muslims or enter at your own risk.

Respond to terroristic acts of muslims by killing the religious leaders. The religious leaders do not believe in the trip to paradise and 72 virgins bullshit themselves. Else they would be first to strap on an explosive belt.

We are currently in a war that will have only one winner. A war that , in my opinion, the West including the United States, does not have the moral resolve to win. One side is going to exterminate the other. There will be no peace treaties. There will be no negoiated truces.


20 posted on 03/15/2006 5:25:48 AM PST by sport
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