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Revealed: The Falling Man of 9/11
Mirror ^ | March 15, 2006 | David Edwards

Posted on 03/15/2006 8:18:01 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: ariamne; BKO
Where is Barbara Olsen?

It's customary to ping a FReeper when you mention them in a post.

Yes, her account is still active. She will always live on FR.

161 posted on 03/15/2006 4:37:50 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: wtc911

""In the week following 9-11 there was another fatal plane crash near NYC, the airliner from the Dominican Republic.""


wrong it was november 2001, not one week later


162 posted on 03/15/2006 4:39:11 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: humblegunner

Yes, my friend.


163 posted on 03/15/2006 4:40:10 PM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - There's no problem on the inside of a person that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: bobbdobbs
I don't think so. Pain, as in suffering, is an upper level congnitive function. It takes several tenths of a second for the brain to process that. But the brain has long since ceased to function due to the impact forces of hitting the ground.

But even so, a spit second of pain is better than several minutes of buring to death pain.

A few people temporarily survived the impact. I saw one heart wrenching story about a triage team member who came across a woman whose upper torso was protruding from a messy puddle of goo, she told him she was still alive and begged for help. He had to black tag her and move on.

164 posted on 03/15/2006 4:42:49 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: Ben Hecks

"" remember the 9/11 documentary where the sound of thud after thud after thud was revealed to be the sound of bodies hitting a roof near ground level.
I have no way to describe how I felt when I realized what those sounds actually were.""


Those sounds sounded like the bodies were falling through glass.


I saw one picture of a person after they had hit the ground.


165 posted on 03/15/2006 4:43:50 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: Gondring
That was the same meeting where they decided that priests who had taken a vow of vegetarianism had to eat meat broth or be excommunicated, right?

I think you are making that part up. Source please?

166 posted on 03/15/2006 4:46:19 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: daybreakcoming

I prefer to watch this video when I think about terrorists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_sgUd5m_4&feature=TopRated&page=3&t=d&f=b

(takes awhile to load, but it's worth it)


167 posted on 03/15/2006 4:59:51 PM PST by Romanov
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To: FReepaholic

NEVER FORGET

If the Republicans were media savvy and fearless ( sigh.. ) they would use some of the footage from the tribute and run it as a commercial.
I would juxtapose the burning Towers and the faces of the murder victims ( used with permission ) with Russ Feingold and the Democrats demanding that President Bush be censured a/o impeached because he dared to wire tap Al Queda.


168 posted on 03/15/2006 5:01:19 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: West Coast Conservative

Dear God, how horrific for this family. Prayers for them.


169 posted on 03/15/2006 5:04:52 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: bobbdobbs
Hmm, jump or be burned to death. Not exactly a tough choice. Burning is very painful. Jumping doesn't hurt a bit.

Usually people die from the smoke inhalation before burning.

170 posted on 03/15/2006 5:05:17 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: georgia2006
""In the week following 9-11 there was another fatal plane crash near NYC, the airliner from the Dominican Republic.""

wrong it was november 2001, not one week later

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Since you seem so attentive to detail I am surprised to see that you didn't notice the quotation marks around that sentence in my post. Most of us here know that that indicates that it was lifted from the post to which the reply is being sent.

171 posted on 03/15/2006 5:08:56 PM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911; georgia2006

Aw give him a break, it's his third day here...


172 posted on 03/15/2006 5:12:08 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: wtc911

also the airliner wasnt from the DR, it was going there.


173 posted on 03/15/2006 5:20:32 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: West Coast Conservative
I guess I should not have read this story about Mr. Jonathan Briley but I did, and it rekindled my anger at those SOB's who killed this innocent man and so many others.

Damn their souls. I don't know whether there is a Hell but I hope there is and that they are there and suffering throughout eternity.

174 posted on 03/15/2006 5:35:07 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: humblegunner

<< But as Gwendolyn says: "It's not about trying to find out who he is, but what his death says to all of us." And what it says is ... never again. >>



Says it all!


175 posted on 03/15/2006 5:37:31 PM PST by NYTexan (Where is MY global warming?)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Before, he seemed kind of symbolic...like the Unknown Soldier.


I'm so sorry for his family.


176 posted on 03/15/2006 5:41:32 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: misterrob

One word added to yours, may their murderers come back in their next life as pig food.


177 posted on 03/15/2006 5:54:32 PM PST by B4Ranch (The truth is good for you, like sunlight, but too much all at once can really hurt.)
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To: onyx

I still ache over that photo and the day.


178 posted on 03/15/2006 7:20:15 PM PST by 359Henrie (NASA needs one more moon rock, its in Mecca.)
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To: null and void
>>That was the same meeting where they decided that priests who had taken a vow of vegetarianism had to eat meat broth or be excommunicated, right?

>I think you are making that part up. Source please?

Council of Braga(not the Star Trek guy!), circa 563. Source: The Catholic Encyclopedia, as posted at newadvent.org.

In the council of 563 eight bishops took part, and twenty-two decrees were promulgated, among others the following: [...] that nothing should be sung in the church but the Psalms and parts of the Old and New Testament; that all priests who abstained from eating meat should be obliged to eat vegetables cooked in meat, to avoid all suspicion of the taint of Priscillianism, and that if they refused they should be excommunicated; that suicides and catechumens should not be buried with great ceremony, nor should anyone be buried inside the church[...]
Recall early Christians who viewed the desire to live as a sign of being too tied to this world when we could be with Our Father (I've read that their carved initials of where they jumped from north African cliffs could still be seen in the 20th Century, but I am not sure that they've survived til now, what with all the religious conflicts there...). It wasn't until the writings of Augustine of Hippo (against his opponents in the Church) and the AD 563 Council of Braga that this was turned on its head, and suicide was reversed into a sin. But then, that made some of the saints sinners...so exceptions had to be added (and to be fair to Augustine, he recognized these problems and added some of the loopholes himself, such as for St. Pelagia of Antioch).

I don't mean to turn this into a religious thread; I was just commenting in response to an implication that it took the Pope's word to make jumping from a burning building not a sin, when it hadn't originally been one in the first place.

179 posted on 03/15/2006 7:20:41 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: misterrob
may their murderers come back in their next life as pigs.

They don't have to, they were pigs in THIS lifetime. As a matter of fact, there was PIG roast in hell on 9-11.

180 posted on 03/15/2006 7:36:26 PM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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