[ex-Texan]

This topic is being discussed tonight on Coast2Coast radio. Consumer privacy expert Katherine Albrecht will be joined by activists Pat Showalter and Celeste Bishop for a roundtable discussion about the controversy concerning RFID and the National Animal ID System (NAIS).

[Bender]

The tin foil is worn shiney side OUT. Hope this helps.

[LibertarianInExile]

Talk about your mark of the beast...[rimshot]

[phelanw]

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[phelanw]

BTW, there's no reason this should stop with livestock. Non-native fish, reptiles, etc are turned loose in our environment. They need to be tracked from capture/birth to new owner. Dogs and cats can be a problem as strays, etc. Parakeets, parrots should be chipped and tracked. Tame rabbits, chickens, tame pheasants, tame quail, chinchillas, heck, just every domesticated animal should be tagged, tracked, and of course have a federal tax attached to it. If it disappears you have to let the government know within 24 hours. No more taking sick and dying kitty out with a .22 Every animal dispatched will have to go to the vet or there will be PETA to pay.

It's all for our own good.

[tertiary01]

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[BurbankKarl]

I think Katherine Albrecht had been on four times so far this past year...I think I will skip it tonight.

[BurbankKarl]

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[stillafreemind]

This is a very important subject to alot of people out here. It smacks the small farmer and homesteader down. If you really want to be enlightened..go to the website and read this piece of crap called NAIS.

As you are reading..and it IS repetitive..all of a sudden .. way down in the darned thing..They are talking about the deadlines for the "voluntary" sign up. When it goes mandatory..you will get fined $1000.00 a day and face imprisonment. It also says..if you are not signed in by deadline..'You cannot BUY, SELL, or TRADE. HELLO? Is this registering with anyone out there? You also cannot have a vet come to doctor your animals..if he does come and you are not signed up..they HAVE to turn you in.

Horses, cows, chickens, llamas, goats, pigs..they all gotta be tagged. Oh wait..of course IF you are a big Tyson outfit..you can be tagged by lot and not individual animal like us poor slobs out here minding our own business.

This does NOT stop disease or prevent disease. We already have a good tracking system. So why this? Control maybe? Greed..ie..how dare people raise their own food and food that people want to eat without growth hormones and vaccines up the butt! Or...how about the IRS? IF you read the NAIS..it says that they will "try" to keep all your info confidential..hello...TRY? Oh yeah, that makes me feel better. Think maybe the IRS is trying to pick up lost revenues from the small guy selling a beef off the farm?

And last but not least..the NAIS says..'we will try very hard to be sensitive to people's religious beliefs and practices.' And yet goes on to say that there will be NO exemptions to this mandatory program. Mennonites, Amish, people who think that chipping animals is wrong, and just a prelude to chipping people..hey, they are all out of luck.

Perhaps this doesn't upset you because you are not a producer..well, if you are a consumer you might be nervous. People with allergies or health conditions that require them to eat organic..good luck. After this goes through..IF you can still find the products.. you will pay BIG for it. (Did I mention the small producer will be picking up the tab for the tags, equipment to read the tags..fee for having someone else read the tags. In Australia..the tags/chips started out at three dollars each..last I read..they are up to $37.00 a piece. Gonna run right out and chip a chicken for that kinda money?)

This is wrong. It's unAmerican.It bites on the way I believe..as a Christian and as an American.

Go read more at www.stopanimalid.com

[Pro-Bush]

[ikka]

The USDA admits that the purpose of this program is not to halt the spread of disease (which an RFID tag won't stop), but instead to open foreign markets for American producers, mainly, BIG producers, to export beef, for instance.

[fella]

There was some somewhat good news on this here in Texas today, the Texas Animal Health Commission said that they were halting action on the NAIS (NASI?) until the feds make clear what this proposed program true demands. The really bothersome aspect of this is that this is only a proposed program that has not been legislated by Congress much less signed into law nor has it been made into regulation at the Federal level, yet all 50 states are attempting to make in mandatory in one way or another. Here in Texas the Animal Health Commission will most likely just wait until they have a meeting where no-one shows up to complain about this then they'll just do it, stroke of the pen law of the land style.

The MSM and the bloggers have turned a blind eye to this issue because it only directly effects less than 10% of our population but it's those same rural folks that feed all of us. So maybe it takes the Art Bell crowd to warn us, don't shoot the messenger until you've heard the message.

I've contacted my state and national representatives by phone and their staffs are remarkably uninformed about the NAIS and the sneaky underhanded way in which it is being implaced and the impact it will have on rural life.

[Jimbaugh]

Bad things like this can't happen because George Bush is in charge.

[Calpernia]

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[kittymyrib]

A better idea would be to tag all government employees and politicians so we could track them...you know, see how much time they spend on the job, who they are meeting with, who they take bribes from. I think that would be very helpful to the voters in future elections.

[freepatriot32]

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[o_zarkman44]

Imagine the impact this stupid requirement will have on the local county fair and 4-H exhibition!There could be nothing more discouraging and detrimental to future farmers than a monolithic animal control program that detracts from the time needed to successfully operate a farm.
Bureaucrats seem to think that farming is a 8-5 job.

Our government can't even control illegal immigration, so instead they choose to impose more regulation on it's citizens, their private property, and their livelihood.

I listened to the C2C program for as long as I could stay awake. Accepting this kind of regulation is sheer madness.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"January 2009 -- Required reporting of all animal movements enforced"

I think enough people are going to put up a fuss about this that it won't happen and it will be challenged at the SCOTUS level.

If not, December 31, 2008 becomes Butchering Day at my farm. Screw 'em. I'm not turning over my laying hens to the Government.

(This was one of the best articles I've read on this subject, BTW. Thanks for sharing.)