[TheSpottedOwl]

We're on the same page there. Though generally I suggest, rather than forcing someone into a rehab program, simply to shut off the money spigots and let them hit bottom if they don't respond appropriately. I'm all in favor of classes to help irresponsible people, if the students join voluntarily and the classes aren't funded with tax dollars.

Oh yes, let's let her and her family hit bottom. The state will take her kids and put them in foster homes. Since all some of you care about is the bottom line, figure out just how much more taxpayer money will go to paying the foster care. Hint: a hell of a lot more money than helping the woman get into a house, and maybe fixing her van.

Did we all get up on the grumpy side of the bed this morning?

[Shalom Israel]

Oh yes, let's let her and her family hit bottom. The state will take her kids and put them in foster homes.

The state should neither be in the business of taking my money (to fund welfare) NOR taking people's kids away. So we're into an infinite loop here: every time you respond, "Ah, but then the government will..." I will answer, "The government shouldn't be doing that either."

figure out just how much more taxpayer money will go to paying the foster care.

The government shouldn't be funding foster care.

[gogeo]

Oh yes, let's let her and her family hit bottom. The state will take her kids and put them in foster homes. Since all some of you care about is the bottom line, figure out just how much more taxpayer money will go to paying the foster care. Hint: a hell of a lot more money than helping the woman get into a house, and maybe fixing her van.

Did we all get up on the grumpy side of the bed this morning?

No, but we weren't born last night either. This woman is not a fit parent and her children should be put in a fit home with adult supervision.