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Australian firm proposes LNG terminal in ocean off Malibu coast (22 miles offshore)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/16/06 | Tim Molloy - ap

Posted on 03/16/2006 9:45:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: CBart95
*shrug* It's preferable to ruining Bab's view...
21 posted on 03/16/2006 1:13:11 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: Spktyr

The US's exclusive economic zone extends out 200 nautical miles. This is based on the Truman and Reagan proclamations and conforms to the Law of the Sea Treaty.


22 posted on 03/16/2006 2:41:47 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Claytonbridge

Oh, I know that and understand where you're coming from. I'm just a keen student of history. If its one thing past events teach us, its that unbridled faith in technology inevitably leads to disaster.....with or without hubris.

The list in just the last 100 years is a long one. The "Titanic", the "Hindenburg", the Lockheed Electra, the "Challenger", Chernobyl, The "earthquake-proof" buildings in Kobe, etc.

But I'm also one who believes that AS LONG as we learn from our mistakes, the risks are well worth it because in the long run the benefits far outweigh any potential disasters.


23 posted on 03/17/2006 5:35:33 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: Spktyr
Yes, but if they put it 13.1 miles out, it's international waters, IIRC.

Not in Long Island Sound, because that body of water is between NY and CT, and I don't think any part of the entrance to the sound is more than a few miles from some US territory.

24 posted on 03/18/2006 9:54:59 AM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: CBart95

And your answer to the problem is????? Nuclear! I like that, solves a lot of problems. Or become a third world nation like Zimbabwe...no smog. Healthy, eat lots of greens.

Seriously, we need energy to help us help other countries through our HUGE donations and technology to help them raise their standard of living.

This "ain't" an easy problem to fix.


25 posted on 09/17/2006 9:25:06 PM PDT by Claytonbridge
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To: Claytonbridge

You still harping on this subject from 6-mos ago?
(Had to go back to see what we were yakin about back then.)
Your imputing some nuclear solution to that storm in a teacup to me is cagey and too obvious.
Are you really the nuclear advocate and did you and your clients "float" that LNG bait story back then to drive your "Nuclear Saviour" story?
It's interesting to see how others in that tete a tete have become bellicose and quite nasty over the recent past.
(Some of these types are hired propagandists and others are simply inmates in this "cyber open-air asylum".)
I was nosing around for cyber spots to acquire "crocs", the fad-sandal/shoe, and happened on your "crock" right here. Fancy that!


26 posted on 09/17/2006 11:05:49 PM PDT by CBart95
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To: CBart95

Sorry you interpreted my comment that way. I am a retired engineer and believe sincerely that the nuclear option potential far outweighs all of the windmills and solar. Here in Northern California the enviros have sued windmills for killing birds. Just think what will happen with thousands of acres of solar reflectors to heat water and generate electricity in the deserts...enviros will attack that also. We as a nation must make tough decisions to keep our economy strong.....and our huge donations to third world countries and the UN to help others.

If I might add, we need to balance the energy it takes to make an alternative to what its value is.

Thanks for listening.


27 posted on 11/07/2006 4:43:57 PM PST by Claytonbridge
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To: Claytonbridge

Retired or not,sincere or whatever, an engineering degree is no indemnification from self delusion and obsessive compulsive pre-occupation in matters you have no hope of affecting.

Oh,it possibly confers some sort of "mission involvement" that implies that you are otherwise gainfully engaged in "worthy work" but lots of old retired guys use that dodge and most everyone accepts that sort of posturing as face saving "razzel dazzel".

Pontificating on the grand mission and the assorted players, including sinister "enviros", may add to your cachet as some dashing "James Bond" hero, but most adults see through all this folklore and relegate you to "old coot" status...you're really not kidding anyone.

I hear and sense an odd sincerety about you and hope you might reconsider your scam and try opening your heart and your wonderful mind to a calling in service to your fellow man. There is a little book entitled The Purpose Driven Life that might be worth your time.

I hope you will give it a read.


28 posted on 11/08/2006 12:32:13 AM PST by CBart95
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To: CBart95

Just found your reply Bart. Your prejudice against anyone who is retired is not too pleasant. Unfortunately you know nothing about me except I'm and engineer and retired. What you don't know is if I may bey young, successful early in life via IPO, retired very early to enjoy life, and of considerable wealth. You prejudged me as an "old coot".

Obviously your mind is closed to nuclear. You ever wonder why Ted Kennedy and his neighbors don't want to look at windmills off their coast but its ok for "the common man"? Why the famous environmentalists like Al Gore tell us what we should drive and save energy while they fly in private jets, suvs, and live with the other high and mighty who live the same way?

Life is about choices, options, alternatives, return on assets / ideas applying technical fixes. Nuclear would give us the energy to make plenty of Hydrogen which would be a major fix to our fixation on mideast oil. Suggest you look at how much energy it takes to make hydrogen....using oil versus nuclear. No windmills or solar can provide that amount of energy needed 24/7...only nuclear.

God Bless America


29 posted on 02/19/2007 2:27:00 PM PST by Claytonbridge
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To: CBart95

PS. My family and I have all read Purpose Driven Life.


30 posted on 02/19/2007 2:27:45 PM PST by Claytonbridge
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To: Claytonbridge

Really? Having read are any of you pursuing possible paths suggested there?

Frankly,I'm a little fuzzy on why you seek to share that "factoid" with me. Did any of your family have some kind of prior purpose before reading this book?

It seems a very long while since we have spoken. Have you been in a coma or something that kept you from contacting me?


31 posted on 02/19/2007 11:35:09 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Claytonbridge

There is something oddly sad about your quiet mania on display here...on one hand you seem to be so dedicated toward "saving the planet" with grandiose zany plans for nuclear salvation and on the other you have this odd need to perform some sort of "credentials sharing ritual" aimed apparently at discounting anyone who might disagree with your cock-eyed ideas on managing your notions about eminent disasters from current energy schemes now in place.

At the same time you are apparently oblivious to the cabal of multi-national countries, governments, and terror-bent Islamic murderers who are engaged in a global program to anhillate over half the worlds population through brutal slaughter.

Are you committed to some type of mental institution? If not please seriously consider turning yourself in. To borrow a quaint saying of Martha Stewart, it would be " A Good Thing" if you did.


32 posted on 02/20/2007 12:00:25 AM PST by CBart95
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To: CBart95

You notice that I never attack you personally versus your approach towards my comments. Obviously we should cease this discussion since it can't just be approached as intellectual ideas sharing.

My last post to you...sorry.


33 posted on 03/21/2007 1:11:33 PM PDT by Claytonbridge
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