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1 posted on 03/16/2006 1:51:18 PM PST by VU4G10
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Immigration reform:

Hire an illegal alien, go to jail.

Problem solved.


190 posted on 03/16/2006 3:23:12 PM PST by kaehurowing
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If it's coming from THIS Senate, BOHICA!


201 posted on 03/16/2006 3:39:20 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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It would be amazing that DeLay would win the Republican nomination only to lose to a Democrat in the real election.

This will be disappointing to watch the Republicans commit political hari-kari in the next national elections.


203 posted on 03/16/2006 3:43:39 PM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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"Kennedy told the committee the proposal was not an amnesty."

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE. Send all the illegals to Kennedy, and let him take care of them...


208 posted on 03/16/2006 3:50:13 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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Sen. Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican who opposes giving permanent status to illegals, said after the meeting that the panel would probably vote for the Kennedy plan.

"The votes are there," Grassley said.

POS RINO!


225 posted on 03/16/2006 4:07:28 PM PST by conservativecorner
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Kennedy told the committee the proposal was not an amnesty

Kennedy told the congress that his progressive immigrant proposals wouldn't change the make-up of America...

227 posted on 03/16/2006 4:12:07 PM PST by Libertina
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This is national suicide. What could we possibly gain by giving away citizenship so frivolously to people who already have their own country? Does anyone think they're going to suddenly vote overhwelmingly for Republicans instead of the more typical 30%? What happens to the so-called "cheap labor" if they have full rights of citizenship? Has anyone maybe considered selecting the best and the brightest instead of granting citizenship to anyone who happens to trip over the border fence?


228 posted on 03/16/2006 4:12:56 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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For such a major issue, it seems there wasn't much discussion.


252 posted on 03/16/2006 5:08:50 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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From FAIR -- March 16, 2006 - 3:51 pm PST

Sad, But True-Cornyn and Kennedy Team Up On Guest Worker Amnesty, Sell Out American Workers

Today the Senate Judiciary Committee met to again consider the guest worker amnesty proposal put forward by Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R-PA). No amendments were offered, only discussion of how the committee should proceed. What follows is a summary of today's proceedings.

Maybe We Should Outsource the Senate Judiciary Committee!

The session began 10 minutes late, but was well attended with most members present for most of the time.

Sen. Specter (R-PA) opened the discussion by complaining about news coverage disparaging the slow progress of the committee and the fact that in four sessions the committee was unable to agree on even the least controversial provisions of the bill.
Sen. Specter (R-PA) then suggested the committee meet again tomorrow or Monday 27th with the hope of reaching agreement on major issues and changing the majority leader's mind about bringing up an enforcement-only bill on the floor.
The members agreed that on such short notice, it was unlikely they could get a quorum tomorrow and decided to meet on March 27th.
Sen. Kyl (R-AZ), while approving of a deadline to pressure the committee to act in a timely fashion, he complained that Majority Leader Frist (R-TN) had gone a bit too far.
Sen. Kyl asked Sen. Grassley (R-IA) if the social security and tax amendments offered earlier could be moved forward in the Finance Committee expeditiously. The Senate Finance Committee claims jurisdiction over these matters and Grassley is the committee chairman.
Sen. Grassley offered that he had directed his Finance Committee staff and his Judiciary Committee staff to work with members on these matters.
Sen. Specter asked Grassley if these matters, once resolved, could be taken up in the Judiciary Committee.
Sen. Grassley responded that he had not yet decided, but that with the agreement of 11 members of the Finance Committee, he would consent to a floor amendment on these matters which would be managed by the Finance Committee.
McCain-Kennedy/Cornyn-Kyl-Who is the Fairest Guest Worker Amnesty of Them All?

Sen. Specter (R-PA), as he has during previous sessions, voiced his view that it would be unfair to allow those who are currently present in the U.S. illegally to jump in line in front of those who were patiently applying for their green cards through legal channels.
Sen. Durbin (R-IL) asked that there be a vote on the McCain-Kennedy amnesty guest worker program as a substitute amendment for the Specter amnesty guest worker program.
Sen. Cornyn (R-TX) replied that the good work of the committee should not be effectively rejected by taking up McCain-Kennedy and that the committee should focus on the guest worker program, but not the amnesty.
Sens. Schumer (D-NY) and Durbin argued that the committee needed to decide where it stood regarding "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens-amnesty.
Sen. Kennedy (D-MA) was recognized by Chairman Specter to make a statement on a possible compromise. He gave an impassioned speech on the need for amnesty to bring illegal aliens out of the shadows. He asserted that the McCain-Kennedy bill would not let illegal aliens jump the line, because it required them to wait 6 years for green card status.
Sen. Kyl (R-AZ) rebutted the Kennedy argument by pointing out that allowing illegal aliens to stay and work in the U.S. for 6 years while awaiting their green cards was tantamount to giving them a green card at the outset.
Sen. Cornyn (R-TX) agreed with Sen. Kyl and argued that the Cornyn-Kyl amnesty guest worker bill is superior to McCain-Kennedy amnesty guest worker program and is not an amnesty.
Sen. Durbin (D-IL) asserted that McCain-Kennedy did not let people jump the line and called it "tough, but fair."
Sen. Feinstein (D-CA) asked Kennedy about the background checks required by his bill and indicated she did not believe DHS could complete all the background checks under his bill.
Sen. Brownback (R-KS) commented that deferred mandatory departure in the Cornyn-Kyl bill also allowed aliens to remain in the country.
Sen. Kyl (R-AZ) replied by saying that while this is true, illegal aliens were not given the same legal status as under the McCain-Kennedy bill.
Sen. Specter (R-PA) announced that the committee would meet again on March 27 at 10:00 a.m. for another session to try and reach agreement on an amnesty guest worker bill.
Sen. Specter announced that there would be votes on a McCain-Kennedy amnesty guest worker program substitute amendment and a Cornyn-Kyl amnesty guest worker program substitute amendment to the Specter amnesty guest worker program proposal.
But We Forgot Amnesty for Agricultural Workers!

Sen. Feinstein (D-CA) inquired of Sen. Kennedy why the definition of guest worker in his bill didn't include agricultural workers.
Sen. Kennedy (D-MA) replied by saying Sen. Larry Craig's AgJobs amnesty guest worker bill covered these workers and suggested that the bill would be offered as a floor amendment.
Saving the Worst For Last-A Cornyn-Kennedy Compromise Guest Worker Amnesty

Sen. Specter (R-PA) announced just before ending the session that Sens. Cornyn and Kennedy had reached a tentative agreement on a guest worker program that would allow workers to stay for 2 years, go home for 1 year, and then return for 6 years. The annual number would be capped at 400,000. Specter asserted that this agreement had 9 firm votes of the 18 members of the committee.
Keep Those Calls Coming

Be sure to contact the members of the Committee if you haven't already done so. Their contact information is listed below.

Main Senate Switchboard: (202) 224-3121

American Patrol Note: Toll Free Number is (888) 355-3588

Senate Judiciary Committee:
Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) - 202-224-4254
Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT) - 202-224-5251
Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-IA) - 202-224-3744
Sen. Jon L. Kyl (R-AZ) - 202-224-4521
Sen. Mike DeWine (R-OH) - 202-224-2315
Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) - 202-224-4124
Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-SC) - 202-224-5972
Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) - 202-224-2934
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) - 202-224-6521
Sen. Thomas A. Coburn (R-OK) - 202-224-5754
Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-VT) - 202-224-4242
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA) - 202-224-4543
Sen. Joseph R. Biden (D-DE) - 202-224-5042
Sen. Herbert H. Kohl (D-WI) - 202-224-5653
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) - 202-224-3841
Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) - 202-224-5323
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-NY) - 202-224-6542
Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-IL) - 202-224-2152


255 posted on 03/16/2006 5:12:48 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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- First you stop the transfer of funds back home

- Next you build a wall

- Then and only then, do you even talk about guest worker programs and other thinly disguised amnesty programs.

These proposed travesties would do nothing to control the flow of illegals into this country - would actually encourage more of it - so what's the point?


261 posted on 03/16/2006 5:28:39 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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convertability equals amnisty

This is undoing the 1996/94 reforms.

this is ronald reagans mistake all over again.

NO CONVERTABILITY OF WORKER VISAS


264 posted on 03/16/2006 5:38:23 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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this whole thing about earning citizenship later is crap.


276 posted on 03/16/2006 7:34:10 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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Under pressure to produce broad immigration reform legislation by the end of the month, a U.S. Senate panel on Thursday neared agreement on a proposal that would give some of the 12 million illegal aliens living in the country an opportunity to earn citizenship.




B.O.H.I.C.A.


292 posted on 03/16/2006 8:46:22 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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If this passes and is signed into law, the Repulocrats just sold out millions of Americans. They can kiss my votes and my a$$ goodbye.


293 posted on 03/16/2006 8:47:37 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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Id like to ask you about The Penis mightier, Trebek.


297 posted on 03/16/2006 9:13:40 PM PST by ketelone
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The only "reform" necessary is for the government to do its job and enforce the existing laws.

But that's not in the cards.

Is anyone still unconvinced of the utter corruption of pretty much every one of these politicians? McCain was absolutely disgusted that anyone would expect that the law be enforced, and lawbreakers be deported.

302 posted on 03/16/2006 9:53:45 PM PST by B Knotts
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People seeking legal status would have to pay a $2,000 fine, apply for a six-year temporary status, have a job, pay taxes, learn English and show an understanding of U.S. government. }

Or else what will happen to them? NOTHING! Just like it's always been. Millions pour across the border unabated every year and only a tiny percentage are sent back across only to cross back the next day. This is such a crock. Throw those sorry bums out of office. All these stupid laws mean nothing until they close the borders!

/rant

303 posted on 03/16/2006 10:22:02 PM PST by Reagan is King (Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it)
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One term comes to mind from my time on active duty:
B
O
H
I
C
A!

How many of you folks agree?

BOHICA & FUBAR. Damn them! McCain thinks this will make him President. Is he right?

312 posted on 03/17/2006 4:58:02 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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This is going no where.

The drunk Kennedy would have you believe he is creating a line 10 million deep, patiently awaiting immigration. Nonsense.

The problem is that the Senate has been innundated with angry phone calls, faxes, emails and letters from every day Americans. They are not going to approve something that can not be reconciled with the House.

This bill from the sell out crowd can not be reconciled with the House. So the cowards in the senate are not going to spend the capital to support it.

Keep your protest coming. Joing us at www.numbersusa.com and help to keep the pressure up.


323 posted on 03/17/2006 6:20:40 AM PST by Pylot
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Both parties think they'll get the votes of the new citizens.


350 posted on 03/17/2006 8:27:52 AM PST by 38special (Fools they are)
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