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Best and Worst Neighborhoods to Buy a Home
Biz.Yahoooo.com ^ | Sara Clemence

Posted on 03/17/2006 12:55:51 PM PST by ex-Texan

The south Los Angeles neighborhood of Watts has been notorious for many things, among them race riots, poverty and gang warfare.

Now it can be known as a great real estate investment.

Over the past few years, rising property prices have rocked the state of California with an earthquake-like vengeance. Luxury subdivisions have filled hillsides, bidding wars have pumped up home sales, and teardowns have sold for more than $1 million. Los Angeles saw home prices increase about 50% from 2003 to 2005, according to the National Association of Realtors, a trade group based in Washington, D.C. The median sales price for an existing home in L.A. stood at $529,000 at the end of last year.

One might think that the bulk of that appreciation came in wealthy and well-known enclaves like Beverly Hills or Bel-Air. But according to a Forbes.com ZIP code analysis, within the Watts ZIP of 90059, home prices rose 91.9%; more than any other ZIP in Los Angeles. Meanwhile, had you sunk your funds into the upscale neighborhood of Holmby Hills, you would have the least amount of appreciation in the city--under 9% from 2003 through 2005.

It is a pattern that held true in several of the largest cities in the U.S. over the past two years. Long-coveted areas, such as Pacific Heights in San Francisco, Buckhead in Atlanta or the Upper East Side in New York, were not the best performers. Instead, in many metros, neighborhoods with lower median incomes, neglected housing stock and low prices, or areas that were dominated by office or industrial space, have surged forward.

For investment performance, think Miami's Little Havana, where prices increased more than 150% over the last two years. Or the tough Northern Liberties section of Philadelphia, which went up 70%. Or Manhattan's Lower East Side, where tenements that once sheltered struggling immigrants are now occupied by high-priced lawyers, and the median home price is more than $650,000, according to real estate appraisal and consulting firm Miller Samuel.

"In the past, you would expect that neighborhoods with higher median incomes would have stronger demand for homes," says David Lereah, senior vice president and chief economist for the NAR. "Lower-income neighborhoods will have more renters. Higher-income areas will have more demand from people wanting to climb the ladder. It means that some things have changed."

As prices have increased, some of the most desirable neighborhoods--which have always been more expensive--have topped out, becoming unaffordable for many home buyers. So instead of buying charming but overpriced stone homes in the leafy Baltimore neighborhood of Guilford, for example, young families turned to blue-collar areas near the water, rehabbing old row houses that seemed cheap in comparison.

Jonas Lee, a founder and managing partner of Redbrick Partners in Manhattan, a private investment fund that puts money into single-family homes, is not surprised. His company targets just such urban areas for investment.

"It takes people a while to figure it out, but there's a very large arbitrage between these neighborhoods and some of the nicer neighborhoods," Lee says. "Once that price differential is large enough, people start to recognize the opportunities, and then there's a sort of a herd mentality. It's leading to the revitalization of neighborhoods that had not seen a lot of investment for a long period off time."

This shifting of money isn't limited to individual neighborhoods--it mirrors a national trend.

"I call it the 'rolling boom,' " Lereah says. "Vegas to Reno was the first thing we saw."

In 2004, the median home price for Las Vegas went up a startling 52%, he says. But by 2005, it had dropped to 12%.

"What happened was, Reno went up 32%," he says. "Then it appeared the boom rolled to Phoenix. You saw similar things in Boston; first Boston got the boom, then it rolled to Providence, R.I., and the air came out of the balloon in Boston."

Not every city we looked at fit the rolling-boom pattern, however. Metro areas such as Dallas and Minneapolis-St. Paul have not seen tremendous real estate price gains in recent years. In Dallas, where the median existing home price went up 6% last year, according to NAR, the greatest appreciation is still coming in more established, pricier neighborhoods. Same goes for Minneapolis-St. Paul, where prices overall rose 4.5% in 2005. Prices are difficult to pin down in Phoenix, which has seen tremendous growth; a new community can spring up in a year, utterly and suddenly altering the prices in a neighborhood.

To get a snapshot of how prices have been moving, we turned to Brooklyn-based real estate data firm OnBoard for numbers on all cities, except for parts of New York. For 20 of the largest metropolitan areas in the country, OnBoard gathered the median home prices from 2003 to 2005 for all the ZIP codes the U.S. Postal Service associates with each city. We tossed out ZIP codes that had fewer than 30 sales in any year during that period because they would not reliably show trends. We then searched for the best performing and worst performing in each city since 2003 and determined the neighborhood or neighborhoods primarily associated with each ZIP.

For New York City, OnBoard gave us ZIP codes for four of the five boroughs. Because 85% of the apartments in Manhattan are cooperatives, which do not have to publicly list property transfers, we turned to real estate appraisal and consuling firm Miller Samuel for the inside scoop.

See the best and worst neighborhoods to buy a home.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bubbles; housing; realestate; topten
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To: ex-Texan

Jeeze, my brick 3-car garage is bigger than that! If I put up a few walls, a kitchen and bath I could sell it for a million?


21 posted on 03/17/2006 1:29:50 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Walkingfeather
yes and maybe that happens for 7 years.... then BOOM. It starts all over again.

I don't pretend to preach, I've never made $600,000 on a real estate investment, you have. I will say that if you pull the slot machine handle enough times....you will lose.

22 posted on 03/17/2006 1:33:40 PM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: Walkingfeather
We can go to the Beach, ski in the mountains and go to the desert all in the same day.

I remember a character visiting the UK from California saying this in an episode of Fawlty Towers. I've lived here for most of my life, but have never met anyone who actually did it.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, though, along with millions of other people - there's a reason the housing is so expensive out here.
23 posted on 03/17/2006 1:34:33 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

I refuse to live in an area where crew serve weapons are needed for home protection.


24 posted on 03/17/2006 1:36:01 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: TXBSAFH

I refuse to live in an area where crew serve weapons are needed for home protection.




Why are you anti-family?

(Sorry, couldn't resist)


25 posted on 03/17/2006 1:39:01 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
..there's a reason the housing is so expensive out here.

Yes? Don't keep us silly Midwesterners in suspense, why DO $16,000 shacks sell for $750,000? And why do you believe there will never be a correction?

26 posted on 03/17/2006 1:40:25 PM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: durasell

No, I love my family. That is why I keep them out of heck holes like this. ;)


27 posted on 03/17/2006 1:41:15 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: TXBSAFH

...But you wouldn't train or serve with them on a crew-serve weaponry?

(I apologize, it's a bit silly. I'll bow out here)


28 posted on 03/17/2006 1:43:38 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Decepticon
Yes? Don't keep us silly Midwesterners in suspense, why DO $16,000 shacks sell for $750,000?

Because many more people would rather live here than in the Midwest.

And why do you believe there will never be a correction?

I don't believe that - I lived through the LA real estate correction in the early '90s when I was just out of college and paying a mortgage on my first townhouse. I just don't see any reason to believe that a downturn will be either severe or long-lasting (longer than, say, 5 years).
29 posted on 03/17/2006 1:46:05 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Decepticon; ex-Texan

that shack in Oklahoma for $30,000, it's location, location, location....
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In Buffalo NY or other upstae NY cities - for that house they'll pay YOU to take it off their hands.


30 posted on 03/17/2006 1:46:37 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, though, along with millions of other people - there's a reason the housing is so expensive out here.

Yes, there is a reason. I spend a few days in San Diego every year for work, and I absolutely love it. One of the nicest cities and best climates in our great country.
31 posted on 03/17/2006 1:47:10 PM PST by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: VegasCowboy
Yes, there is a reason. I spend a few days in San Diego every year for work, and I absolutely love it. One of the nicest cities and best climates in our great country.

I went to school at UC San Diego and used to think I'd live in La Jolla or Del Mar after graduation. Heaven on earth, if there is such a place. If only they had more tech jobs...
32 posted on 03/17/2006 1:49:02 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: durasell

I live in TX, handling all manner of weapons comes natural to us.;) Ever see some deer hunt with a M203?


33 posted on 03/17/2006 1:50:26 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: ex-Texan

Without a good swamp cooler, I wouldn't give ya a penny over $725,000


34 posted on 03/17/2006 1:51:58 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: TXBSAFH

I didn't know deer hunt? How do they pull the trigger with their hoofs?

(rim shot, please. I'll be here all week. Remember, try the veal and tip right)


35 posted on 03/17/2006 1:52:14 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ex-Texan
Now people are moving away from SoCal like crazy. Why? Because they can longer afford housing.

That statement reminds me of the time someone asked Yogi Berra what his favorite restaurant was, his reply was "Gambolli's down on 43rd Street... but no-one goes there anymore because it's too crowded".

36 posted on 03/17/2006 1:52:39 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: durasell

Great point. There is more to this than meets the eye. Commercially zoned land on the right street is worth substantially more than similar residentially zoned property.


37 posted on 03/17/2006 1:54:18 PM PST by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Because many more people would rather live here than in the Midwest.

I see. Have you ever thought of selling your home and buying 5000 acres in Wyoming, building a 4000 sq. ft. palace for your family and doing your programing and business on-line....like the rest of us hicks?

38 posted on 03/17/2006 1:54:31 PM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: VegasCowboy

If it's high traffic, you can knock down the house and put up a pre-fab building for an auto body shop or some other business.


39 posted on 03/17/2006 1:56:27 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Walkingfeather

--California is where people with a dream come to realize it. It has a culture of discovery and innovation. For me it is important to be in that kind of environment. For people that enjoy the status quoe, it is not a place for you. That is why people think it is worth living here.--

California is the place the company I work for and most of the people who work here are from. I'm in NC and they moved here. It's OK with me.


40 posted on 03/17/2006 2:00:01 PM PST by bkepley
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