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Still Looking for that Smoking Gun in Iraq [David Corn on captured documents]
The Nation ^ | 3-17-2006 | David Corn

Posted on 03/17/2006 1:35:58 PM PST by johnny7

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To: johnny7
memo showing that Saddam had oodles of WMDs or was buddy-buddy with bin Laden

Used to be there were NO WMD and Saddam had NO relationship with bin Laden.

Now there has to be OODLES of WMD and Saddam has to be BUDDIES with bin Laden in order for the WOT to be credible.

The goal posts keep shifting.

41 posted on 03/17/2006 2:31:14 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: kjo

"It's very difficult to undersand why Rove and Co. are not out front on this. What else do they have to do that could be more important?"




Strategery... they don't have to:

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1152

Unleash The Blogosphere!

We are beginning to see, through the dogged efforts of Stephen Hayes at the Weekly Standard, that connections between Saddam and Terrorists, and yes Al Qaeda, were deep and extensive. First we have the Newsweek list of numerous meetings between Iraq and Al Qaeda officials over a decade.

Today Stephen Hayes continues his efforts to discover what information is hidden inside all the information...




This stuff will be pored over by thousands, or more... an endless stream of information the tired old media can't circumvent.


42 posted on 03/17/2006 2:35:15 PM PST by backhoe
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To: johnny7
I have always wondered why David Corn had such a stressed look on his face but now I think I know -- Iraq's WMD's are safely stored up his butt.
43 posted on 03/17/2006 2:37:58 PM PST by msnimje (SAMMY for SANDY --- THAT IS WHAT I CALL A GOOD TRADE!!!)
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To: PISANO

David Corn is a leftist pile of steamping dog poo..... he's also one of the key manipulators of the whole Wilson-Pflamegate charade to discredit the war and our government. He gives the term "biased" a whole new dimension, since he is psychotically incapable of even considering what does not suit his far-left worldview.


44 posted on 03/17/2006 2:38:20 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: backhoe
This quote is also from Fallaci's book;

“In 1974 [Algerian President] Houari Boumedienne spoke before the General Assembly of the United Nations. And without circumlocutions he said: ‘One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere of this planet to burst into the northern one. But not as friends. Because they will burst in to conquer, and they will conquer by populating it with their children. Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women.’”

And another...

“We cannot conquer these people with tanks and troops, so we have got to overcome them by force of numbers.”

45 posted on 03/17/2006 2:54:49 PM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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Yes, and buried somewhere in all the stuff I have about Islam is another Fallaci quote to the effect of, "how could she have missed the story of the century for so long?" She interviewed one of these cretins- at the point of a submachine gun- in 1972, who laid it out for her, and she missed it then.

It's no different than the 1930's, when Hitler spelled out exactly what he planned, and set about doing it, while the world slumbered on.

46 posted on 03/17/2006 3:01:04 PM PST by backhoe
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To: johnny7

korn is a lipless punk who is in bad need of a knuckle sammich!

LLS


47 posted on 03/17/2006 3:09:08 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: johnny7
Corn and the corny MSM count on their solid belief that the majority of people will believe what they tell them, and think no further. It has been obvious that Saddam has sponsored terrorism himself, much less his deep and extensive connections to Al Qaida and other terrorist groups.

Never has been been any mention by Corn or the MSM of the extensive, proven, photographed, and obvious reconstitution of Saddam's ballistic missile program, which the Kay and Duefler reports both document extensively. Missiles were considered THE means of delivering WMDs, in the past, and certainly now. Corn ignores this fact entirely. Why spend so much on new missile technology if you have destroyed any and all means to make them a threat to anyone? Even Corn isn't that stupid . He is just very dishonest.

48 posted on 03/17/2006 3:10:04 PM PST by Richard Axtell
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LOL... I think Katrina vanden Heuvel did the packing !
49 posted on 03/17/2006 3:15:19 PM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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What if the shoe were on the other foot? What if these lefties were trying to prove the US had engaged in extensive WMD production and suddenly two million documents from secret CIA files were stolen and released to the media and to the Looney Left? Would they look at the documents with a critical eye, finding reason after reason to not take them seriously? I rather doubt it!


50 posted on 03/17/2006 3:44:50 PM PST by JohnEBoy (AT)
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I guess Sadaam gassed the Kurds and the Iranians with natural gas not Serin.. All them dead people, you know, the ones murdered by Serin gassed themSELVES... We invaded and found nothing.. Maybe the Kurds died of natural causes.. or were thrown from 2nd story windows.. by Sadaams two sons.. <<- the psychotic mass murderers, those two..



51 posted on 03/17/2006 3:53:59 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Richard Axtell
Why spend so much on new missile technology

Perhaps Saddam was working his way up to....a moon mission! :)

The Kay and Duefler reports are an interesting read, as are similar publications, including the 911 Commission Report. Taken in their entirety, the body of evidence clearly leans towards a dictator that clearly was not living up to his end of the bargain. My experience is that the farther left one is, the more time he or she will spend reading everything but first hand accounts of the people we hire to check into such things.
52 posted on 03/17/2006 5:31:35 PM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: johnny7; ravingnutter
Reminder about David Corn:

...It appears that Corn, a Lefty who writes for the very left-wing magazine The Nation, sliced and diced a paragraph from a Robert Novak column in order to manufacture the scandal. His article was the first to make the allegations that the Bush administration illegally outed Plame as a CIA undercover operative, in order to discredit her diplomat husband.

The core of the mini-scandal is the charge that "two senior administration officials" told Novak, a famous conservative political columnist and commentator, Valerie Plame's identity as an undercover CIA agent to him. But that is not what Novak wrote. You see, I'm not just a reader of the news, I'm a journalist with a very inquisitive mind - and an Internet connection. And I've got Google. So I did what those Lefty bloggers apparently didn't do before swallowing Corn's version hook, line and sinker. I Googled and found Novak's article. Here is what it says, verbatim, and in its entirety, about Valerie Plame:

Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me his wife suggested sending Wilson to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. "I will not answer any question about my wife," Wilson told me.

Novak did NOT say "senior administration officials" revealed her identity. Novak simply states her identity. Now I don't know how Novak knows what Valerie Plame does for a living. Maybe he knows her and Wilson socially.

Wilson was fairly highly placed in the first Bush administration and in the Clinton administration, and Novak has been in DC for decades. No doubt, they all make the party circuit. Plame was not a CIA spy in the jungles of Africa or the deserts of the Middle East. She lived and worked in Washington DC, where Novak works. Or perhaps Novak got the information from a low-level government employee who didn't know Plame was an undercover operative - surely, someone other than Wilson and Plame knew she worked at CIA.

Corn, conspicuously, does not quote Novak's entire paragraph anywhere his piece - and Corn's piece is the foundational article of the entire "scandal." Corn does assert that Novak told him that "government officials" told him of Plame's real job, but it is telling that the words Corn said Novak uses are "government officials," which could be virtually anyone in the government. And Novak's piece does not source Plame's identity to the "senior administration officials," as Corn implies it does. In Corn's piece, in fact, the allegation that it was "administration officials" seems to rest on a claim by Corn that Wilson told Corn that Novak said so. That's third-party. It's hearsay. It would not be admissible as evidence in a trial. And Wilson, remember, has an ax to grind. Yet the Lefty bloggers are grabbing Corn's spin and claiming they have "confirmation" and "official" proof that the White House released Plame's identity as a smear against Wilson.

Did administration officials "out" Plame? The evidence is rather lacking. In fact, it is increasingly clear that Wilson is the one who is revealing his wife's identity as an undercover agent - if indeed that's what she really is.

-------- Source 184 posted on 09/29/2003 10:23:35 AM PDT by ravingnutter


53 posted on 03/17/2006 9:11:57 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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