Bush Using Straw-Man Arguments in Speeches (beyond barf alert)

AP ^ | 03/18/06 | JENNIFER LOVEN

[goldstategop]

This is a DNC hit piece dressed up as news. Its not an objective article; its Loven writing an editorial opinion. Hers is no more valid that that of any one else's. What I find annoying is these liberal journalists won't even come out and acknowledge their own biases. But we know who they are.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[Darkwolf377]

"Some people believe the answer to this problem is to wall off our economy from the world," he said this month in India, talking about the migration of U.S. jobs overseas. "I strongly disagree."

Is this writer so freaking thick that she actually believes that speaking this way is somehow deceptive? It's merely a convenient tool of rhetoric--does she actually expect him to explain every nuance of every single argument opposing his policies in his speeches? No--you just slap a label on the other side and go to town. People've been doing this as long as people have been communicating.

Of course, this reporter will soon be writing about every single other politician who does this--Ted Kennedy claiming Robert Bork will bring us back to the days of back alley abortions, for example--unless, of course, she claims Bush is the ONLY politician who does this, in which case she is even more guilty of this tactic than is the President.

[John Lenin]

This will explain it.

In Georgetown's East Village, Roger Ballentine and his wife Jennifer Loven have sold their quaint two bedroom semi- detached Federal house at 1346 29th Street, N.W.

Roger Ballentine is president of Green Strategies, a consulting firm specializing in energy and environmental issues, and was previously deputy assistant to President Clinton for environmental initiatives and chairman of the White House Climate Change Task Force. He also sits on the board of directors of Solar Electric Light Fund (SELF)along with actors Ed Begley, Jr. and Larry Hagman. Jennifer Loven is a reporter for the Associated Press.

[Cicero]

Does Jennifer Loven think she's Maureen Dowd? Since when did AP start providing leftist editorials as if they were news articles? This one doesn't even PRETEND to be news.

[Berlin_Freeper]

More proof that AP is the Democrats Attack Dog.

I bet Jennifer Loven even looks like a dog, she sounds mighty frustrated.

[MEG33]

Some would say this is an editorial piece..not objective reporting.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Let's see...

Conservatives oppose:

Voting Rights for Blacks
The Right of Women to "Choose"
Intelligent Political Dissent
Health Care for the Poor
Reading Programs for Children
Prescription Drugs for the Elderly
Gay Rights
"Living Wages" for the Poor
Assistance Programs for the Homeless

No, liberals never argue against a strawman...

I think people need to realize that conservatives and liberals often agree on goals for the country... Good education, health care for everyone, a safety net for those who lose their jobs, good retirement plans, law and order, etc...

We just disagree on HOW to accomplish these goals.

[savedbygrace]

Didn't the Perky One coin the phrase "some say"

Bawa Walters and Andrea Mitchell were using that before Couric was born.

(That's gonna leave a mark.)

[goldstategop]

The other implied subtext of course in Bush is a liar and no one should trust anything he says. While of course the Democrats wear halos like saints do and you can always rely on them to tell the truth. That's really what you're getting at, isn't it Ms. Loven? Very subtle.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[Para-Ord.45]

Let`s get off our duffs and do somethin`

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[Doctor Raoul]

Jennifer Loven needs some Lovin'......the overwhelming frustration she's feeling comes screaming though the article. She may be more frigid than Maureen Dowd.

Wait one, check that...NO ONE is more frigid than Mo Dowd.

[melt]

Basically, this is just another form of personal attack and name-calling session against Bush. She loses.

[Darkwolf377]

Good point. She would have us believe the repulsive Reid and pelosi and EVERY other politician isn't out there making broad statements.

The difference, of course, is Bush is making them in defense of America and attacking Al Qaeda; Reid and pelosi are making them in defense of the democratic party and attacking the President.

[Doctor Raoul]

...two bedroom semi- detached Federal house at 1346 29th Street, N.W.

That makes Jennifer one of the evil rich.

[Doctor Raoul]

$478K house, now. Was it at the peak when they sold?

[lowbridge]

About the author Jennifer Loven:

Power Line: Jennifer Loven, Democratic Operative

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/007959.php

AP reporter Jennifer Loven goes back … to the future

Associated Press reporter Jennifer Loven either got a ride from Marty McFly or got her own flux capacitor up to 88 mph to file this story on President Bush’s speech, about three hours before it is scheduled to start. (Hat tip: Michelle Malkin).

http://www.rathergate.com/?p=903

[Mr_Moonlight]

A specialist in presidential rhetoric, Wayne Fields of Washington University in St. Louis ....

WOW! What a Job Title! How does one get this esteemed job as "specialist in presidential rhetoric" anyway? Is there a course at the local college to take for preparation into this exciting and rewarding career ... sign me up! /sarcasm off

[WOSG]

Critics charge that Jennifer Loven of AP is a biased hack who mis-represents what Bush says, did so during the 2004 campaign, and continues to write hit pieces against the Presidents in her op-eds disgused as 'news'.

Heck, I am not saying it, I am just reporting that some people say it..

[WOSG]

"I don't disagree with much of this. However, what I find absurd is that the author thinks that this activity is largely restricted to the President. Every politician does this. That doesn't make it right, but it does make the author kind of a moron for singling out the President."

She's not a moron, she's a biased liberal.

Then again, the differences can be subtle.

[WOSG]

"Does Jennifer Loven think she's Maureen Dowd? Since when did AP start providing leftist editorials as if they were news articles?"

This has been going on for several years... Loven wrote anti-Bush hit pieces as AP "news" while her husband helped the Kerry campaign. All in the (liberal) Family.