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Bush Using Straw-Man Arguments in Speeches (beyond barf alert)
AP ^ | 03/18/06 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 03/18/2006 2:33:33 PM PST by Pikamax

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To: Pikamax

Jennifer Loven doesn't know what a straw man arguement is.


41 posted on 03/18/2006 3:35:27 PM PST by bad company ("Any damned fool can write a plan. It's the execution that gets you all screwed up." - James F. Hol.)
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To: Pikamax
When the president starts a sentence with "some say" or offers up what "some in Washington" believe, as he is doing more often these days, a rhetorical retort almost assuredly follows.

Google: Web Results 1 - 10 of about 225 for "jennifer loven" "some say"

White House Tests Flu Pandemic Readiness By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer Saturday, December 10, 2005 "Some say that more comprehensive steps are needed to get ready for a possible pandemic, such as boosting the nation's public health infrastructure."

Please continue to enlighten us, Miss Loven.

42 posted on 03/18/2006 3:35:47 PM PST by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: lowbridge
That's a straw man argument right there. But I forget: Democrats have pure motives and Republicans like Cretans, are born liars.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

43 posted on 03/18/2006 3:38:50 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pikamax

Iraqi citizen gives JENNIFER LOVEN a purple finger...and it's not a thumb!


44 posted on 03/18/2006 4:43:33 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: Pikamax

Oh please. As if these same left wing hacks didn't blame Rush Limbaugh and anyone more conservative than Ted Kennedy for the Oklahoma City bombing.


45 posted on 03/18/2006 4:55:17 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Pikamax

Of course, if the President ever dared identify the "some" of whom he speaks (which would be easy to do), he would be charged with "bullying", "abuse of power", and "McCarthyism".


46 posted on 03/18/2006 7:21:54 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: lowbridge

And intelligent readers say....Loven & the AP are becoming more blatantly biased against the President with each 'editorialized' article printed!


47 posted on 03/18/2006 9:38:30 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Katherine Harris is 'In It to Win It' .....Go here: http://www.electharris.org/)
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"It's such a phenomenal hole in the national debate that you can have arguments with nonexistent people," Fields said.
"All politicians
(and members of the Enemedia) try to get away with this to a certain extent. What's striking here is how much this administration rests on a foundation of this kind of stuff."

This is rich! I can not believe ANY ONE, least of all a member of the Enemedia, would put this in print.

Rush needs to see this and read while his perky Couric montage plays in the background.

48 posted on 03/18/2006 9:59:37 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Pikamax

Warning label should be applied to everything Jennifer writes. She is married to a former Clintonite and DNC big wig.


49 posted on 03/19/2006 5:18:51 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: Darkwolf377
Jennifer Loven is married to Roger Ballantine, a former Clinton adviser and also a paid 'environmental' adviser to the Kerry campaign.

Here is a dissection of my favorite Loven hit piece.

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/007958.php#007958
50 posted on 03/19/2006 5:07:18 PM PST by Carling (RIP Kirby Puckett - Another Part Of My Childhood Dies)
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To: lowbridge

That's right, I vaguely remembered that Jennifer Loven had previously written some outrageously biased articles, even by MSM standards, and your links provide the detail - thanks!! Amazing how you can be the spouse of a Clinton/DNC tool and yet be allowed to write the most outrageously biased "news" stories for AP. I'm not saying they can't employ anyone whose spouse is in politics (though maybe that would be a good rule!!), but at least there should be some attention to preventing someone with such a stunning conflict-of-interest from controlling the news output in such a biased way. She is a DNC hack and should be sent to staff the AP bureau in Zimbabwe. If they don't have a bureau there then she should be given the privilege of starting one.


51 posted on 03/19/2006 9:08:02 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Jeff Chandler
How many times have I heard or read "journalists" do this?

I've railed on about this for years! Just do a Google news search for "some say" and see what comes up. A regular Google search also turns up a lot of journalist use of non-existent "some say" to put forth a fake liberal slant on the news (21 million hits).

52 posted on 03/22/2006 9:06:53 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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