Skip to comments.Kosovo May Explode -- Here
Posted on 03/18/2006 5:46:16 PM PST by tgambill
The War on Terror suffered a major blow three years before it was ever announced. It happened when the people of this democracy were misled into attacking the sovereign, emerging post-Communist democracy of Yugoslavia, over rumors of genocide and ethnic cleansing that proved false. In so doing, we delivered the Balkans to al Qaeda.
Today we are being asked to seal that historical blunder, the repercussions of which are still escalating seven years later. The people we "rescued" have turned their weapons against United Nations and NATO forces.
While NATO spends most of its time rooting out terror cells in Kosovo and Bosnia, which served as the planning bases for the London and Madrid bombings, the 2006 deadline to complete our eagerly forgotten debacle and determine the province's final status is fast approaching.
To persuade the international community that only one final status will be acceptable, our Albanian "rescuees" have been stepping up the violence. This is a message to the West that it has only one possible exit strategy: grant unconditional independence -- without border compromises with Serbia and without protection guarantees for what's left of the non-Albanian minorities.
Here is the size of that hole so far: In November, 2001, what should have been an explosive article appeared in the European edition of the Wall St. Journal. Headlined "Al Qaeda's Balkan Links," it read: "For the past 10 years ... Ayman al-Zawahiri (bin Laden's second in command) has operated terrorist training camps [and] weapons of mass destruction factories throughout Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Turkey and Bosnia ... Though the Clinton administration had been briefed extensively by the State Department in 1993 on the growing Islamist threat in former Yugoslavia, little was done to follow through ...".......
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When Clinton Lied - Serbs Died
Clinton involved us in the Balkans and Kosovo
Quite a few Freepers understand that clinton fought that war on the wrong side. But I have yet to hear a single Republican politician or influential conservative pundit say it.
They remind me of the three monkeys. Hear no evil. See no evil. Shut your eyes and ignore it, and maybe it will go away.
Well, it won't go away, and if they agree to give Kosovo to Albania, it will only be the first step toward an effort to build Greater Albania in Europe.
Compared to most Muslim areas this one is a model of peace and tolerance.
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This is sickening...a tragedy in the making...after so many in the region.
I do hope that our incompetent state dept is listening...I know that John Bolton spoke against our bombing the wrong side in the 90s and spoke out against our involvement on the wrong side. And of course the million dollar question is why...why did NATO and the traitor Clinton go ahead with bombing and involvement.
And the Democrats are still pandering.
Exactly.......Now, it seems the Bush administration has worked something out with Russia and China. Both said that they would not stand in the way of the independence.
That's because all but a few of them were solidly in Clinton's corner. They bought the propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
"Compared to most Muslim areas this one is a model of peace and tolerance."
*****I assume that you are using /sarc. correct? As you probably know this is one of the worse examples in Kosovo. The Serbs have been cleansed since 1999 and it continues. The attacks against the Serbs has been going on since after the "retalitory murders" following the bombing. This also includes Albanian politicians that are not inline with the Greater Albania or the Mafia. Most Albanian targets have been members of the LDK party and FARK. Kosovo has been almost as bad as other Muslim areas but we have tolerated it, that is the difference.
Very disheartening. I wonder what Bush promised Russia to get them to agree to betray their Little Brother Serbs.
In addition to Bolton, who spoke out against Clinton and the bombing of Yugoslavia, - Senators who voted with Bob Smith against funding President Clinton's unconstitutional bombing of Yugoslavia were:
Allard (R-Col.), Bunning (R-Ky.), Burns (R-Mont.), Cleland (D-Ga.), Craig (R-Idaho), Crapo (R-Idaho), Enzi (R-Wyo.), Feingold (D-Wis.), Fitzgerald (R-Ill.), Gramm (R-Tex.), Grassley (R-Iowa), Gregg (R- N.H.), Helms (R-N.C.), Hutchinson (R-Ark.), Inhofe (R-Okl.), Nickles (R-Okla.), Santorum (R-Penn.), Sessions (R-Ala.), Thurmond (R-S.C.), and Voinovich (R-Ohio).
I believe Clinton involved us and backed Kosovo thinking that he could appease the Islamic terrorists....it has of course done no such thing and has instead emboldened them. Another mess left over from the Clinton years.
Thanks. Jesse Helms is much missed.
Yes, side note....over the five years, the U.S. middle level officers (Major to Lt) confided in me that we were on the wrong side as they became disillusioned with the policy of not pursuing the Perps committing the murders and intimidations.
Interesting list. I doubt they agree on much these days with respect to Islamic terrorism.
read post 13 as a possible explanation....
Then there was Christianne Amanpour, courtesy of CNN. I understand she had some influence of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Throw in the present high Poobah of International "Human Rights", Louise Arbour of Canada. Bloggers give her as the "unindicted war criminal".
I pay grudging tribute to the MSM on the Kosovo conflict- the biggest wash job, since Walter Duranty, Dr Goebels, and Big Brother 1984.
It wouldn't have anything to do with the 900+ stolen FBI files, would it?
Compared to most Muslim areas this one is a model of peace and tolerance
To the contrary.
BOSNIA AND KOSOVO ARE DESTROYING ANY VESTIGES OF 1000 + YEARS OF XSTIAN CIVILIZATION - ITS CHURCHES, TOWNS, PEOPLE AND ARE MURDERING THE FEW XSTIAN SERBS WHO ARE LEFT. THE REGION HAS BECOME THE TERORIST TRAINING CAMP IN THE BACK YARD OF EUROPE...PREPARING FOR THE ONSLAUGHT TO COME.
UNLESS THE MOOSLEMS SEE THE LIGHT AND RETURN TO THE XSTIAN FOLD.
More on those who objected and defied.
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"backed Kosovo thinking that he could appease the Islamic terrorists."
*****yes, that is one reason I've heard. Also, it's part of a strategy to break down the Balkan states. There's also an oil pipline coming through the Balkans.
"'There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states,' said NATO's Supreme Commander U.S. Army Gen. Wesley Clark on CNN in April. 'That's a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.'
Just thinking about who he means by "we" sends chills down my spine.
I think it was a few related things.
First, Clinton absolutely did not want to have another Rwanda-type genocide on his hands, and the truth is that the recent history of the region was "in favor" of a real genocide taking place, if not nipped in the bud.
Second, Clinton's cynical side cannot be ignored: even if there wasn't a serious genocide going on, it would be good politics for him to act as if there were.
Finally, Clinton wanted to be known a Wartime President -- recall that he was legacy-building by this time. And thus Rambouillet Accords, especially Appendix B, confronted Slobbo with an ultimatum (occupation by NATO) that no country could accept.
If made independant.. I am sure it will become the next Afgan-I-Stan terrorist university .. Unless.. possibly the 250,000 Serbs who were promised the right of return will clean house again and finish the job this time unencumbered..
UNLESS THE MOOSLEMS SEE THE LIGHT AND RETURN TO THE XSTIAN FOLD
Given the welcome they've received from the XSTIANS I doubt that'll happen.
The reasons for going into the Balkans were fabricated to a certian extent. The murder of 8,000 Muslims in Srebincia didn't happen, the Rajak Massacre didn't happen, and the bombing at the market was done by the Muslims not the Serbs as later investigations have indicated. The U.S. Administration did want to appease the Muslims by siding with them, second, it was part of the overall strategy of the U.S./UN to break down the Balkans into pieces. We initially supported Milosevic in the 80's, while he was in New York. The CIA turned him from future Banker to politician. When he returned to Serbia he turned nationalist and separted from the U.S. influence. We imported Muzzies to the Balkans to fight with the Serbs and break up the Balkans. Murders by Serbian paramilitaries did occur, and they are being prosecuted. More than I can say for the ICTY......very poor conviction record. The Serbs on the other hand may be protecting some of the middle level policy commanders from prosecution.
Notice the dates and change of attitude...........
Holbrooke said the following:
There's a military insurrection that is taking shape, backed by the members of the Albania Diaspora in Germany, Switzerland, and right here in New York City, where a lot of Albanians and Albanian-Americans are sending a lot of money and support to Kosovo. (Gosh - NYC? -SG)
Holbrooke: An independent Kosovo would "unravel Southeastern Europe."
JIM LEHRER: And they want an independent Kosovo ruled by Albanians, right?
RICHARD HOLBROOKE: Yes. And more. I met with several Albanian leaders in Kosovo who said their goal is an independent Kosovo, their goal is to recreate the Greater Albania that existed briefly during the 30's and 40's, which includes Albania, Kosovo, and part of Macedonia. That, I can tell you, Jim, would unravel Southeastern Europe and dramatically increase the chances of a general war. And that's why the situation is both not the same as Bosnia and why it's so dangerous
I really need to stress this point so people do not misunderstand it. The Kosovo Albanians have been very badly treated for over a decade by the Serb minority in Kosovo. Their rights have been denied and the Yugoslav federal constitution was changed to reduce their powers. This was entirely wrong, and it led to the inevitable reaction which we're now seeing. At the same time, the violent solution which is being advocated by the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army, which is really not an army but a lot of different groups that are gradually forming an infrastructure of resistance, this approach is highly dangerous to stability in the region.
--I assume that you are using /sarc. correct?
..... on the balance he is a decent man. But he was paid handsomely to lobby for the Albanians.....
Thanks for the heads up. Yes, Bob Dole a very civilized and decent man. The fact you raised, that he was paid- hurts deep down though.
What a propaganda job, we got. At least the media could have given something else of the poor suffering Albanians, warts an all.
OH, what BS!! You always post in favor of clinton... what are YOU on FR for except to support billy boy!!
Rwanda was STILL in turmoil while billy j was still President!!! He never did anything to help the Africans.
THERE WAS NO GENOCIDE IN KOSOVO EVER, EXCEPT WHEN THE SS NAZI ALBANIANS WERE KILLING OFF EVERY NON-ALBANIAN THEY COULD GET THEIR BLOOD COVERED HANDS ON DURING WWII.
TAKE YOUR SUPPORT FOR BILLY-J OVER TO THE DU. They would appreciate your concerns for poor billy-j's bombing innocent Christian folks in support of islamics!!
The presence of the cigar serves to indicate that the sarcasm switch is on. Whaddya gonna do with these n00bs, anyway!!!
Well buddy.. if any of them do convert, their "religion of peace" brethren will just CUT off their heads after extreme torture!!
You know, I remember that there were some objections to the war at the time, although I didn't remember all the names. But since then there have been almost no protests, no questions why we are still there, no objections raised to the behavior of the Muslim terrorists. There's that one Canadian diplomat who has spoken out very boldly and sensibly several times, and that's about it.
Of course Tony Blair was right in the thick of it, if anything even more eager to go in than clinton was.
He has had Albanian connections for years. Paid lobbyist for sure.
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