I just finished talking to a close friend of mine who's a dyed-in-the-wool Dem. The occasion was the death of one his ex-wives and I called to express my sympathy. We were talking about various non-political things when he launched into a diatribe about/against the war in Iraq. I heard all the dishonest arguments that Dems have been spewing about how Hussein was no threat, more Iraqis have died since the war than all the years Hussein was ruler blah blah blah. My friend went from lib talking point to lib talking point.
When I tried to pin him down on all his "facts", he would quickly change topics and he finally announced that we shouldn't talk politics. He had been doing most of the talking, and butted in every time I started a counter argument.
We're still close friends, but all he reads and hears is lib propaganda. He thinks Al Franken is a great politcal analyst. He asked me why I wasn't still a Dem. (I changed parties about ten years ago). I answered because I finally started getting facts about how things actually were and not lib propaganda. We eventually changed topics from politics to personal matters.
I've got friends like this too. Frustrating isn't it.