Skip to comments.Not a Completely Peaceful Protest (Swastikas at Tampa anti-war protest)
Posted on 03/19/2006 9:16:20 PM PST by PPHSFL
Hundreds of people filled Tampa's courthouse square Sunday to mark the third anniversary of the start of the war in Iraq, as thousands did the same throughout the country.
"After three years, it's a failure," said protestor Mabili Ajani. "It's a clear and utter failure."
That belief was shared by many of the anti-war protesters, and some sounded off about how to get out of Iraq.
"We're going to have to clean the mess up," said Michael White. "Somebody's going to have to. We need to get our children out of harm's way. Strategic withdrawal is where it's at."
The message to bring the troops home resonated with Major Raymond Simmons, who retired to the Bay area after being wounded in Iraq. He sported his uniform at the rally and became part of what was supposed to be a peaceful anti-war movement.
One of the flags a protester waved was branded with a swastika, a sight that angered Simmons, who argued for 15 minutes with the waver of the controversial flag about what type of protest was appropriate to mark the occasion.
"Our president made a lot of goofball mistakes, but Americans are not Nazis," said Simmons.
Simmons and his adversary eventually agreed to disagree. Simmons displayed his own flag to honor the troops and said the the reference to Hitler degrades the men and women who are fighting overseas.
"They do not represent the peace movement," said Simmons. "We're trying to bring the guys home with respect and dignity. This is not what they're trying to do."
This weekend, President George Bush asked Americans to be patient as political leaders in Iraq create a unity government. He said he's encouraged by the progress and that victory in Iraq will lay the foundation for generations to come.
If this has already been posted, please remove. I checked and couldn't find it posted.
If you lie down with dogs, you'll get up with fleas!
Though I guess you're not bright enough to realize that.
Waitaminit - they postponed it AGAIN??!!?
Yes, and that wounded soldier who is now a Peacenik better figure out which side he is on. There are only two choices.
The Communists started the anti-US "peace" movement. You got in their boat, now sail with the Ship of Fools!"
The war on terror cannot be won by following the antiwar crowd. Pure defense of the homeland will eventually lead to a police state in order to 'protect us' from the individual suicide bomber.
The war on terror cannot be won by the "all Islam is evil" crowd. Aggressive bombing of a people back to the stone ages would only confirm what radical Islam has purported all along...that the western nations cannot co-exist with Islam. This would result in the creation of hundreds of millions of suicide bombers trying to find their way to our shores....and the eventual creation of a police state to 'protect us' from those suicide bombers.
The war on terror can only be won by supporting those clerics that are pro-democracy over those that espouse radical fundamentalism. That means we need a combination of military action, political action and economic action to create the premise that Islam is a religion of peace and that a prosperous life can only be achieved if you reject the fundamentalists and join the democratic clerics. This requires us to try to understand Arab culture like never before. It requires us to sacrifice lives and money to train and construct the underpinnings of a democracic state. It requires many, many years of hard work.
Three? Lessee . . . 2002,2003,2004,2005,2006 -- that's five years by my count.
Statements at the rally...
Lynn Lague, War Protester:
When you kill masses of people you have to take responsibility for it. You can't just say oh, because America is killing masses of people that's ok it's not ok!
But even these veterans for peace and their supporters can't agree on how far to take it. A verbal argument broke out when some protesters showed up with a Nazi symbol on the American flag.
Lynn Lague, War Protester:
We went into Iraq just the same way Hitler did the Jews.
Raymond Simmons, Veteran for Peace:
We are trying to bring the guys home in a peaceful manner a dignified manner not a distasteful manner.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
No it isn't. Why don't you say this to a free Iraqi you coward!
---One of the flags a protester waved was branded with a swastika---
This is standard leftist dogma, that the "establishment" is a Nazi conspiracy. There are hard core committed Communists on the periphery of our society that are still fighting the revolution.
Thousands? I guess that means three thousand.That's 60 per state. 7 per congressional district...I'm underwhelmed.
Sure they do. The problem is that Mr Simmond does NOT represent the leadership of the so called "peace movement." He's simply a "useful idiot" to them, to be used up, and then discarded, much like Cindy Shehan.
I agree. Perhaps after today, he'll have a clue as to the company he was keeping, especially with jerk with the swastika on the American flag.
There are only two sides in this matter. The RIGHT side, and the WRONG side. There is no middle ground.
I am also more than a bit upset with the ex soldier. While he does have the right to his opinion, to make a statement like he did today, saying that the President has made a lot of goof ball mistakes, was beyond comprehension, and showed a lack of understanding war on his part. I find it hard to believe he was actually in the military. President Bush has always let the Commanders in the field call the shots, UNLIKE Lyndon Johnson did in Viet Nam. For this "soldier" to think he knows more than the Commanders in the field is breathtakingly shocking, delusional, and ignorant. And for a soldier to engage in "arm chair quarterbacking" is unforgivable.
This makes me so angry I want to give him the finger. But I'll let these people do it instead.
Along with millions more.
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