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J-XX Stealthy Fighter Aircraft - (China stealth fighter)
Sino Defense ^ | July 10, 2005

Posted on 03/21/2006 1:53:09 AM PST by Flavius

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To: Flavius

Let's call it the 3-frogs.........


21 posted on 03/21/2006 5:12:44 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks Joe...the Chinese have been producing a lot of Photo Shopped images and "mockups". They clearly have plans and are now trying to get a look at what those plans may end up looking like. They have the money and the engineering skills, and the Russians are helping with some expertise.

But, turning a mockup into a working desing is still a HUGE leap. Actually having the technology and skill to produce the types of materials needed, the electronics needed, the avionisc, the comm, the stealth, the tracking and acquisition, let alone the armaments to successfully compete with the likes of the F-22 is still beyond them (like 5-10 years).

However, if they produce say, F-15 quality or better aircraft in some numbers (and with this, the J-10, the SU-30's, etc. that they are building by the hundreds they are approaching being able to do that), then they may be in a position to have enough technology and the numbers to overwhelm us. That's my bigger concern.

Left alone and funded long enough, they will compete head to head with our best...I pray that doesn't happen, that we will come to our senses economically and diplomatically to force the issue on our terms as opposed to theirs.

22 posted on 03/21/2006 5:16:48 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Joe Brower
Had Kerry been elected, the F-22 and JSF programs might have been canceled.
23 posted on 03/21/2006 5:18:56 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Flavius
Clint Eastwood knockoff.....


24 posted on 03/21/2006 5:26:11 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Robe

"You must think in Russian"


25 posted on 03/21/2006 5:29:30 AM PST by Rebelbase (President Bush is a Texas jackass when it comes to Border security .)
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To: Flavius

Great looking plane, now they just need some pilots.

Unfortunately, their best guy Wong Wei (pronounced "W(r)ong Way") still sleeps with the fishes after tangling with our E3 surveillance plane back in April 2001.


26 posted on 03/21/2006 5:39:48 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Bump!


28 posted on 03/21/2006 5:54:40 AM PST by jpsb
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To: sgribbley
TODAY'S FREE TRADE IS NOT ABOUT THE FREE MARKET
29 posted on 03/21/2006 6:06:06 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
Actually having the technology and skill to produce the types of materials needed,

Not really. After all, Boeing wants to do it's carbon composite manufacturing in China in order to cut costs. What the Clintons didn't give the Chinese, American manufacturers are more than willing to provide in order to keep the prices low at Wal Mart.

30 posted on 03/21/2006 6:32:38 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Jeff Head

It's a matter of time.
The Chinese however don't seem too anxious in mass building any of their current designs (like J-10, etc). They are clearly first trying to amass different skills and technologies, and when the time is right, they will start building like no tomorrow.

They are probably going to navalize their J-10's too soon.


31 posted on 03/21/2006 7:35:58 AM PST by okie73104
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To: mkjessup

If their pilots are as good as their race car drivers (see A1GP) we've got nothing to worry about, the stealth fighter will be in the wall before turn 2.


32 posted on 03/21/2006 7:38:10 AM PST by rattrap
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To: mkjessup

"Great looking plane, now they just need some pilots."

Too bad about Wong Wei, but whatever happened to his wingman, Lt Sum Yung Gui?


33 posted on 03/21/2006 8:25:42 AM PST by Clioman
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To: Flavius

What is even worse is this is based off of the MiG 1.44 and the Sukhoi SU-47 stealth programs in Russia. The Russians gave China the specs for these programs, and are working together to design the stealth craft.


34 posted on 03/21/2006 9:22:17 AM PST by Thunder90
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This is to save time and money, and to foster an even stronger strategic relationship between China and Russia.


35 posted on 03/21/2006 9:24:36 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Flavius

Bump!


36 posted on 03/21/2006 9:28:12 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Flavius

First things first, the image is a digitally created fake. A sophisticated one and whoever did it was quite skillful, but it is not real. There are however aerodynamic scale models of proposed J-14 variants that are real (but different than this picture) but those photos lack detail and are quite small.

Secondly, even if it were real, those are claiming it is a copy are obviouslly clueless. There is no other existing aircraft that even bears any remote similarities to the aircraft in the picture. The Su-47 was a heavily modified Su-27 airframe with forward swept wings. The Mig 144 project is only superficially similar in that both are twin engined planes featuring canards. Taken that to its natural conclusion, the aircraft in the picture would also be copy of the Gripen, Rafale, Eurofighter, the J-10, and any other aircraft with a canard that has ever flown.

And I don't know why people are still blaming Clinton for everything, p.s. It's been 6 years since he left office.


37 posted on 03/21/2006 1:26:09 PM PST by cmdjing
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To: cmdjing
Commander JingJing? Is that you?


38 posted on 03/21/2006 1:30:35 PM PST by null and void (Sept 11th: National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval)
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To: cmdjing
First things first, the image is a digitally created fake. A sophisticated one and whoever did it was quite skillful, but it is not real.

How can you tell?
39 posted on 03/21/2006 1:36:55 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Flavius

It is a Sukhoi SU-47 aircraft.


40 posted on 03/21/2006 2:47:51 PM PST by Thunder90
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