[joesbucks]

What I didn't except was that some of our media and members of congress would be fighting us too like they are

I'm sorry, I cannot accept that from you. While we may disagree on certain issues, I will at the end of the day know the difference was an honest difference. that statement is simply dishonest.

If I knew how and had the time, I could go back and check your posts on this site and find that from day one that you would have believed that some of our media and certain memebers of Congress would be against our invasion and ongoing effort in Iraq. It's a given. There is no way that you can find surprise that the certain media folks and Congressional folks would be against this action. Yes, in general, the chin music was much less at the beginning. But that was as we were performing at Desert Storm levels or better as we marched in and surgically took over the Country.

Believe me, if this war had been executed exactly as it has been executed to this day, but the President was Gore (I shudder), you and scores others would be pointing out the shortcomings of exactly the same actions you are now defending. Please don't give me the reply Gore wouldn't have done it this way. That's not the point. The point is if he did. You would not be happy with the progress to date.

[Mo1]

Joe .. you seem to assuming more then what I said

I said .. "like they are"

Yes, I realize before the war there were dissenters and those that were against this war and yes I didn't expect them to shut up

But what I didn't expect was to the extent they would sell out and harm our country like they have with the lies, distortions and leaks of national security like they have.

As for Gore .. I can't speak for something that never happened

Though I will say .. if Gore had someone like Wesley Clark in charge of running this war as Clinton had him in charge with Kosovo .. yes, I am sure I would have a few things to say

Not because helping others and defending peoples freedoms is wrong .. but because Wesley Clark is an idiot