[joesbucks]

Ok, maybe I read more into your note than what you intended. I'll give you that. But for as much as this forum says there is a bias by the media against Presidnet Bush, there is an opposite bias against the media in many places in the conservative movement. Some with merit, some not.

As for the Gore comparision, I'm saying if everything had been done exactly as it had been done to date, exactly, I don't think many rank and file, grass roots or other types of conservatives would be defending our current situation. I'm asking for intellectual honesty. I don't think you would be happy with our current situation in Iraq if this was a dem president, but the events had been played out in the same manner.

[Mo1]

there is an opposite bias against the media in many places in the conservative movement. Some with merit, some not.

I understand your point there .. but at the same time .. SOME in the media deserve those attacks because of their history .. that you cannot deny

As for Gore .. if he fought this war exactly like President Bush has .. no, I wouldn't slam him .. because he would be doing the right thing in fighting this WOT

But since Clinton and Gore didn't do that when they had their chance (8 years) .. I highly doubt that Gore would fight this war like Bush has

[Al Gator]

"I'm asking for intellectual honesty. I don't think you would be happy with our current situation in Iraq if this was a dem president, but the events had been played out in the same manner."



On this note Joe, remember when boy Clinton went into Serbia. Republicans had grave reservations. But they were quiet and supported his decision to use force, and even stayed the course. (btw, our troops are still there, even though boy Bill said they would be out by that Christmas, I hear crickets chip when I listen for criticism from the msm) But Clinton never, ever, had to deal with the sniping, backbiting and downright treasonous activity that W is having to put up with from the Ratz.

This point can't even be debated.

[devolve]

How did Slick Willie "play it out" in Rowanda?

What happened when the UN and Slick Willie decided that Africans in Rowanda were disposable?

What happened in Cambodia after John Kerry came home after Christmas Eve?

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WTC-'93, Somalia's "Blackhawk Down", WACO, bombing the ChiCom embassy by Slick Willie - we know well the great minds of the democrats when things get hot -

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As far as "intellectual honesty" - Slick Willie's alleged "intelligence photographic memory" did not seem to help him when MENSA turned down both Bill & Hill flat in 1992 during the campaign.