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Impeach Justice Ginsburg?
Power Line ^ | March 22, 2006 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 03/22/2006 5:56:38 AM PST by yoe

Jim Lindgren at the Volokh Conspiracy provides a thoughtful, well-reasoned response to my suggestion that there now exists a case for impeaching Justice Ginsburg based on the use she wants to make and/or is making of foreign law in constitutional adjudication. Lindgren concludes: "I don't know whether a Justice should ever be impeached for holding a bad judicial philosophy, but such a philosophy would have to be far more unusual than Justice Ginsburg's to form a plausible basis for impeachment."

As Lindgren notes, I'm not advocating that Ginsburg be impeached -- I haven't studied the matter enough to know whether the case for impeachment is ultimately persuasive and, in any event, any such attempt would be futile. Thus, the issue is an academic one, as far as I'm concerned. But since I raised the matter without really explaining myself, let me respond to some of what Lindgren and his colleagues Steve Calabresi and Stephanie Zimdah say about the matter.

First, I agree that when the constitution frames the issue in terms of whether something is "reasonable" or "unusual" it is not beyond the pale to look at foreign practice. Second, I agree that citation to foreign law "is least justifiable" (but I would say "not justifiable") "when the Court is asked to determine whether an unenumerated right is deeply rooted in American history and tradition, as was the case in Lawrence, or whether a federal statute violates American federalism rules, as it was asked to do in Printz v. United States."

Third, I think that Lindgren, Calabresi, and Zimdah may not fully appreciate the project that Justices Ginsburg and Breyer have embarked on through their reliance on foreign law. As I argued here (relying on an unpublished paper by Jeremy Rabkin) the Supreme Court's recent use of foreign law is founded on the notion that history is a progress towards an absolute (and therefore geographically universal) idea, and that the Supreme Court's task is to discern and give voice to the contours of that idea, wherever they are revealed, and regardless of what [the] Framers may have written or intended.

Justice Ginsburg has argued that Framers' stated general intent to form a more perfect union provides a basis for using foreign law to override (as outdated) fixed principles that the Framers thought would make the union more perfect. She has also advanced the need to improve the United States' world image as a basis for looking to foreign law. Although I haven't surveyed the history of Supreme Court reliance on foreign law as Calebresi and Zimdah have, I suspect that these justifications for applying foreign law are unusual. They are certainly subversive.

Finally, can a judge ever be impeached for holding a bad judicial philosophy? I think the answer must be yes. A judicial philosophy holding that the law should be the opposite of what the Constitution says would merit impeachment. So would a judicial philosophy to the effect that the words of the Constitution are not binding in constitutional adjudication.

Ginsburg does not hold the first of these lawless philosophies and has never expressed the second. But, as we have seen, she does appear to believe that 21st century "global" opinion can be as or more useful in constitutional adjudication than the 18th century opinions that were written into the document itself. And she also seems to think that the desire to curry favor with foreigners is a legitimate factor in constitutional adjudication. These views strike me as essentially lawless and highly unusual.

So yes, to the extent that Justice Ginsburg holds these views and allows them to enter into her decisions I think there is a case for impeachment.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: ginsburg
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1 posted on 03/22/2006 5:56:39 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

For sleeping in court?


2 posted on 03/22/2006 5:59:05 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: yoe

No way. But if she keeps falling asleep at the bench, maybe there'll be medical grounds...


3 posted on 03/22/2006 6:00:01 AM PST by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: yoe

I don't care why she leaves, just as long as it is soon. She IS a cancer on the snooze.


4 posted on 03/22/2006 6:04:45 AM PST by right right
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To: SR 50

We have a winner!


5 posted on 03/22/2006 6:05:54 AM PST by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: yoe
"A judicial philosophy holding that the law should be the opposite of what the Constitution says would merit impeachment. So would a judicial philosophy to the effect that the words of the Constitution are not binding in constitutional adjudication."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.......
thanks for this posting..it is obvious if you do not like the constitution then work to amend it..that is the system not subverting it on the bench.
Ginsberg and her allies in the law know this full well. The founders allow for changing the constitution - but they also know they cannot push the socialist mush thru the congress and states- so they subvert the document..that is grounds for impeachment clearly.
6 posted on 03/22/2006 6:11:50 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: yoe

7 posted on 03/22/2006 6:20:49 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Flightdeck
"...based on the use she wants to make and/or is making of foreign law in constitutional adjudication."

Yes way.

French law or any other countries laws should have no bearing on our Constitution when it comes to Supreme Court rulings. This is acceptable to you and not grounds for impeachment?

If this is not reined in soon we will have a Justice who will rule based on "interstellar" law put forth by Xenu (And I am only half joking).
8 posted on 03/22/2006 6:22:10 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Flightdeck

9 posted on 03/22/2006 6:23:48 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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If I were president when the Supreme Court used International Law to make a decision, I'd immediately sign an executive order stating that no one in the federal government is going to obey that decision because its unconstitutional.
10 posted on 03/22/2006 6:27:48 AM PST by RHINO369
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To: yoe

BUMP!


11 posted on 03/22/2006 6:27:56 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (President Bush isn't absolutely perfect,but he is absolutely less flawed than his critics .)
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To: RHINO369

Rhino369 for President in 08! You've got my vote Rhino.


12 posted on 03/22/2006 6:33:02 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (President Bush isn't absolutely perfect,but he is absolutely less flawed than his critics .)
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To: yoe

Be nice. A good example for future justices. I'd support it whole-heartedly.
But it ain't gonna happen.


13 posted on 03/22/2006 6:33:20 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: yoe
I'm sure sleeping during oral arguments is the norm for the SCOTUS. They all do it. NOT!!
14 posted on 03/22/2006 6:43:23 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: yoe

We can't impeach her for sleeping on the job?


15 posted on 03/22/2006 7:16:05 AM PST by Mr. Brightside (Watcher of the Skies)
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To: yoe

Just another liberal goon....she's an old hag...


16 posted on 03/22/2006 7:21:10 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Little Ray

If they couldn't remove Samuel Chase, they'll never remove anybody. Impeachment is of little account without conviction.


17 posted on 03/22/2006 8:07:43 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: yoe

Don't the Justices take an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States.

Wouldn't an opinion based on foreign law that ran counter to the Constitution or the laws of the US be a violation of their oath?


18 posted on 03/22/2006 9:09:04 AM PST by wildbill
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To: yoe
Terrible justice, but no to the impeachment. "Unusual" doesn't cut it.

James Grimes, during the Johnson hearings in the 1800s: "I cannot agree to destroy the harmonious working of the Constitution for the sake of getting rid of an unacceptable President. Whatever may be my opinion of the incumbent, I cannot consent to trifle with the high office he holds. I can do nothing which, by implication, may be construed as an approval of impeachment as a part of future political machinery."

19 posted on 10/23/2006 11:54:37 AM PDT by zendari
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To: yoe
Justice Ginsburg has argued that Framers' stated general intent to form a more perfect union provides a basis for using foreign law to override (as outdated) fixed principles that the Framers thought would make the union more perfect.

Isn't this what the amendment process is for?

20 posted on 10/23/2006 12:07:13 PM PDT by joebuck
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