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Bird Flu: "This thing Just Continues to March" (Interview w/Dr Michael Osterholm)
Minneapolis/St Paul City Pages ^ | March 22, 2006 | Steve Perry

Posted on 03/23/2006 8:10:18 AM PST by Gritty

The CP interview: Dr. Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy talks about the flu that could bring the world to its knees.

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Of the 100+ human cases of H5N1 flu recorded, the vast majority have involved bird-to-human transmission, mostly among open-air poultry handlers in Asia. In addition, there are confirmed clusters in which it has passed person to person, though none of those has yet resulted in a breakout of the virus. One thing is clear, however: In its present form, H5N1 has killed over half of the people it's infected. The great flu pandemic of 1918-19, by contrast, killed about 5 percent of its victims.

Will it cross over? If it does, can it possibly remain as deadly? Though Osterholm notes that viruses usually do lose strength as they spread—it's not really in their own evolutionary interest to kill the majority of their hosts—he believes the only responsible answer on both counts is we don't know. But it's not just the characteristics of the virus that worry him.

One of the things that sets the former Minnesota state epidemiologist apart from other public health officials is his attention to the fate of the medical and social infrastructure in any serious contagious outbreak. With respect to bird flu, his outlook recapitulates in many ways what he had to say in his 2001 book about bioterrorism preparedness, Living Terrors much of the human toll in death, hysteria, and anarchy would be exacted not by infection but by the wide-scale breakdown of global supply chains and just-in-time delivery systems for vital goods and services. "I think Secretary Leavitt has been brutally honest in telling American communities, you're going to be on your own," says Osterholm. "I think he's right."

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1 posted on 03/23/2006 8:10:21 AM PST by Gritty
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To: Gritty; sure_fine

Time to lay-in vast supplies of canned creamed corn, Vienna sausages, canned tuna fish, powdered milk, and hide it all under your bed! Panic!


2 posted on 03/23/2006 8:12:57 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

I got plastic and duct tape


3 posted on 03/23/2006 8:14:42 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

I see that the financial shows have gotten in on the act as well in predicting mass panic and a market crash.


4 posted on 03/23/2006 8:15:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: sure_fine
I got plastic and duct tape

You'll be fine.

5 posted on 03/23/2006 8:16:02 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: sure_fine

Duct tape won't work, ya gotta get duck tape.


6 posted on 03/23/2006 8:16:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek

Someone needs to write a book.


7 posted on 03/23/2006 8:16:32 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Gritty

Meanwhile back at the ranch, West Nile virus is almost in season, killed a lot more than 100...


8 posted on 03/23/2006 8:17:34 AM PST by quantim (A gullible public is the best friend of a weak politician.)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL!


9 posted on 03/23/2006 8:17:47 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: cripplecreek

Y2K redux?


10 posted on 03/23/2006 8:18:50 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: Gritty

Time to cancel Hildabeast's "It's fer the chilluns" vaccination bill and revive a decent vaccination-making capacity in our country. We are NOT prepared for any kind of flue emergency because the vaccination companies have almost all been driven out of business by hillarycare.

Actually, it's probably too late, because it will take years to restore the capacity she succeeded in destroying. But at least we could try.

Bush's behavior has been extremely puzzling. We get these canned tunafish alerts, but he has done NOTHING to really prepare the country for an epidemic.

Does anyone think that if there is a worldwide emergency we will be able to buy all the vaccine we need from foreign suppliers, like the French? I think they will want anything they manage to produce for themselves.

You have to wonder what hillary has on President Bush in her FBI files.


11 posted on 03/23/2006 8:20:05 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gritty

What a foul story indeed Batman!


12 posted on 03/23/2006 8:20:49 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Y2K redux?

Something like that. Actually I have no problem with people being prepared for emergencies. The missing family found in the mountains yesterday were surviving on Y2K supply's and even said they could have held out for several more weeks.
13 posted on 03/23/2006 8:21:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek
I have Duck Tape.
14 posted on 03/23/2006 8:21:56 AM PST by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Gritty
Here is a link to the antidote to this story. It looks like some scientists don't think there will be any pandemic.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=410181

If someone can post this as a link I will be grateful.

15 posted on 03/23/2006 8:24:25 AM PST by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: I'm ALL Right!
I find it amusing most people so far have chosen to deride an article which they could not read unless they are a speed reader.

This is a long article. I suspect more rational discussion will come at a later time.

In the meantime, enjoy the mockery!

16 posted on 03/23/2006 8:24:31 AM PST by Gritty (We are dealing with a highly lethal virus that no one has natural immunity to - Dr Gerberding,CDC)
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To: cripplecreek

I used up all my Y2k creamed corn and sausages, so I'm getting ready for another load. TP; lotsa TP this time...


17 posted on 03/23/2006 8:25:10 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

I didn't buy into the Y2K hype......much. I did buy a generator but Y2K gave me a good excuse and I've used it dozens of times since.


18 posted on 03/23/2006 8:27:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Gritty
Just joking. I am not blowing off the bird flu thing. In fact, I think the Y2K business made problems for everyone, because of the "crying wolf" scenario. It's hard to take them seriously now.

In the event that we have no water, I think we should all look into THIS product.

19 posted on 03/23/2006 8:30:16 AM PST by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Gritty

Fox News was reporting this a.m.
that studies show the Bird Flu
virus is "unable to attach itself
onto cells in the nasal passages of
humans" (I paraphrase this part)
and DIRET CONTRACT with the dander
of an infected bird is necessary for
transmission of the disease. To date,
we have had NO cases of bird flu
in humans without that direct contact.

This was reported as GOOD NEWS this a.m.


20 posted on 03/23/2006 8:30:43 AM PST by Grendel9 (u ()
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