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Pentagon: Russia Gave Saddam U.S. Intel
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| March 24, 2006
| ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
Posted on 03/24/2006 11:24:15 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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The Reuters report:
Pentagon report says Russia gave Iraq intelligence
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Pentagon report says Russia gave Iraq intelligence
Russia provided intelligence to Iraq's government in the opening days of the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, including information that fed Iraqi suspicions that the main U.S. invasion force coming from Kuwait was actually a diversion, a Pentagon report released on Friday stated.
The report said an April 2, 2003, document from the Iraqi minister of foreign affairs to President Saddam Hussein stated that Russian intelligence had reported information on American troops plans to the Iraqis through the Russian ambassador.
The intelligence, the document stated, was that the American forces were moving to cut off Baghdad from the south, east and north, that U.S. bombing would concentrate on Baghdad and that the assault on Baghdad would not begin before around April 15.
In fact, Baghdad fell about a week before that date.
"Significantly, the regime was also receiving intelligence from the Russians that fed suspicions that the attack out of Kuwait was merely a diversion," the report stated.
The revelations were contained in a report by the U.S. military's Joint Forces Command assessing the events in the opening months of the war.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just goes to show you how intelligent the Russians are. Like we weren't going to find out? What will we do? Probably nothing.......
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:28:59 AM PST
by
b4its2late
(There are good terrorists.............. DEAD ONES.)
To: b4its2late
They gave them GPS Jammers, improved RPG's and Night vision equipment also.
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:31:41 AM PST
by
Wristpin
("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
To: b4its2late
My question is, why on earth would we tell anyone of an attack plan in the first place?
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:32:20 AM PST
by
Cyclone59
(If a cat chokes on a mouse, who killed who?)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"one piece of Russian intelligence actually contributed to an important U.S. military deception effort"With enemies like this, who needs friends!
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gee,I wonder why they would have done that! I wonder if they also might have had a motive (or a number of motives) to help Sadaam move/hide/destroy his WMDs.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Russians are still scum.
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:34:31 AM PST
by
GEC
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
How many Americans died as a result?
Why should we not given the Chechen freedom fighters intel on Russian army movements?
Russia is our enemy.
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:36:46 AM PST
by
tomahawk
(Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
To: b4its2late; Wristpin
To: tomahawk
Might have been part of the plan:
"Significantly, the regime was also receiving intelligence from the Russians that fed suspicions that the attack out of Kuwait was merely a diversion," the report stated.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But the Dems were braying for more partners to help us. Would the French have betrayed us this way? Oops, stupid question.
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:41:46 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(The tree of liberty is getting awfully parched.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I question how Russia acquired our war plans? Espionage, intelligence, satellite data, or combination? I don't think we gave it to them, unless it was planned to encourage Saddam to cave? That I seriously doubt.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Russians are not our friends - was Bush ever so naive as to think they were, or was he just playing along with Putin to try to get something, anything at all, out of him? Churchill held his nose and worked with Stalin to win WWII, but he was never naive enough to forget that Stalin was really an enemy of freedom and democracy. I do find it interesting that the Russky briefing(s) may have helped to lead to a more rapid collapse of Saddam's regime, though I'm not sure how much more Iraq could have resisted even if they knew exactly what was really happening.
"Whether by chance or design, one piece of Russian intelligence actually contributed to an important U.S. military deception effort. By telling Saddam that the main attack on Baghdad would not begin until the Army's 4th Infantry Division arrived around April 15, the Russians reinforced an impression that U.S. commanders were trying to create to catch the Iraqis by surprise."
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:43:48 AM PST
by
Enchante
(Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
Wonder if the ambassador had dinner with Jay Rockefeller?
To: tomahawk
Yes. I believe there were extra deaths as a result.
Yet, when I look back on that war (or that part of the war) I really think what harmed the coalition was the lack of a push from the north to the south as Turkey did not allow the 4th ID into her country.
Of course, it was still a record speed military achievement. Hell, I can still remember the press conference with Bush and Blair and the press crying the blues that the battle for Iraq was taking way longer than predicted - LOL.
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:47:00 AM PST
by
hawkaw
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Might have been part of the plan:Those were my thoughts also. Some more of that "misinformation" that the President warned that would be given out. And then I read elsewhere that Russians in civilian clothing helped load and truck WMDs over to Syria.
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:47:57 AM PST
by
daybreakcoming
(If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Today, on another thread, I addressed the incompetence of the MSM media - this is perfect example, made even more so because it is by an "expert" MSM writer (the "AP Military Writer"):
"U.S. military also erred"
"U.S. officials believed Iraq would set its oil wells on fire as part of a scorched-earth policy, and the invasion plan was constructed in ways meant to get U.S. troops to the southern oil wells before they could be torched. The new report said, however, that while captured Iraqi documents show that there were plans made at the regional or local level to destroy the northern and southern oil wells, Saddam had expressly forbidden it."
Mr. AP "Military Writer", please tell me how long it would take Saddam to "unforbid" torching the oil wells and to transmit that order via radio? Five seconds? Forty seconds?
Now tell me how long it would take to determine that he had made the "unforbid" decision and to put forces in place to protect the wells?
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Whether by chance or design, one piece of Russian intelligence actually contributed to an important U.S. military deception effort. By telling Saddam that the main attack on Baghdad would not begin until the Army's 4th Infantry Division arrived around April 15, the Russians reinforced an impression that U.S. commanders were trying to create to catch the Iraqis by surprise.I all can say it that Allah must have been ticked off with Saddam Hussein.
"All things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This was known during the opening weeks of the war, was it not? Russian advisors on hand, including those in the ... er ... "diplomatic" convoy of trucks heading for Syria, had to be evacuated and their safety assured before American action could be taken, regardless of their nefarious reasons for being there in the first place.
Russia is NOT our friend (the president's view to Putin's soul notwithstanding).
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posted on
03/24/2006 11:52:13 AM PST
by
shezza
(God bless our military heroes)
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