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Saddam, Al Qaeda Did Collaborate, Documents Show
NY Sun ^ | 3/24/06 | Eli Lake

Posted on 03/24/2006 2:08:33 PM PST by pissant

CAIRO, Egypt - A former Democratic senator and 9/11 commissioner says a recently declassified Iraqi account of a 1995 meeting between Osama bin Laden and a senior Iraqi envoy presents a "significant set of facts," and shows a more detailed collaboration between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

In an interview yesterday, the current president of the New School University, Bob Kerrey, was careful to say that new documents translated last night by ABC News did not prove Saddam Hussein played a role in any way in plotting the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Nonetheless, the former senator from Nebraska said that the new document shows that "Saddam was a significant enemy of the United States." Mr. Kerrey said he believed America's understanding of the deposed tyrant's relationship with Al Qaeda would become much deeper as more captured Iraqi documents and audiotapes are disclosed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; bobkerrey; iraq; iraqiintelligence; libseatcrow; saddam
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And the Wash Post and NY Times will be all over this like they were the oil for food scandal.

Maybe if we tell them that GWB's National Guard records are in the released documents, they may run with the story.

1 posted on 03/24/2006 2:08:36 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
But... but... Bush lied and kids died!

::covers ears::

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!!

2 posted on 03/24/2006 2:10:45 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: pissant

but but but.... ummm errr there was... ummm errr but... ahh forget it.


3 posted on 03/24/2006 2:14:06 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: pissant; Gordongekko909
Axis of Evil.

We never expected a direct link between Saddam and 9/11 any more than FDR expected a direct link between Hitler and Pearl Harbor.

The lefties understand this -- they pretend not to though.

4 posted on 03/24/2006 2:15:29 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Gordongekko909

Their world must be crumbling.....I'm just so choked up about that..


5 posted on 03/24/2006 2:16:06 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

My question is: What else did the bogus 9/11 Commission overlook?


6 posted on 03/24/2006 2:16:40 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Echo Talon

Exactly


7 posted on 03/24/2006 2:16:57 PM PST by pissant
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To: BenLurkin

Hitler and the Japs did have a relationship, just like Saddam and Al Quaeda.


8 posted on 03/24/2006 2:17:03 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: pissant
In an interview yesterday, the current president of the New School University, Bob Kerrey, was careful to say that new documents translated last night by ABC News did not prove Saddam Hussein played a role in any way in plotting the attacks of September 11, 2001.

What happened to the Presidents contention that Saddam was involved with Al Qaeda? So like the leftists to keep moving the football. What's next - they find that Saddam did help plan 9/11, but it still doesn't count because he didn't personally participate in the implementation???

9 posted on 03/24/2006 2:17:29 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: pissant
In an interview yesterday, the current president of the New School University, Bob Kerrey, was careful to say that new documents translated last night by ABC News did not prove Saddam Hussein played a role in any way in plotting the attacks of September 11, 2001.

What happened to the Presidents contention that Saddam was involved with Al Qaeda? So like the leftists to keep moving the football. What's next - they find that Saddam did help plan 9/11, but it still doesn't count because he didn't personally participate in the implementation???

10 posted on 03/24/2006 2:17:34 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: BenLurkin

I believe highjackers of all sorts were trained at Salman Pak.
Including al Queda.


11 posted on 03/24/2006 2:18:02 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: pissant

Liberal argument that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 just smashed to the ground.

Except for the NY Slimes who'll never report this...CBS will try to say the document is a fake.


12 posted on 03/24/2006 2:18:58 PM PST by Brytani
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To: BenLurkin

I'm not sure the lefties understand much at all.


13 posted on 03/24/2006 2:19:35 PM PST by pissant
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To: My2Cents

Able Danger, perhaps?


14 posted on 03/24/2006 2:19:58 PM PST by pissant
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To: Kay Ludlow

It's the "move the goalposts" trick. And it ain't gonna work! BTW, are you related to Larry?


15 posted on 03/24/2006 2:21:03 PM PST by pissant
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To: Kay Ludlow

Yeah, "Well, Saddam was involved in the planning and funding of 9/11, but he didn't personally fly any of the planes into the buildings." These people look evil in the face and refuse to acknowledge it, but remember, they have a perverted sense of what actually constitutes "evil."


16 posted on 03/24/2006 2:21:21 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: pissant
They misspell Kerrey's last name every time except the first time the mention it. The "Kerry" spelling calls a picture of John "Lurch" Kerry to mind.

Am I the only one that noticed a lot of grammar errors? I like what they're saying but they are struggling to get it said. Must be the results of the NEA-dominated government education system.

17 posted on 03/24/2006 2:22:06 PM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything.)
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To: Brytani
CBS will try to say the document is a fake.

I'm sure they're checking typeface as we speak.

18 posted on 03/24/2006 2:22:21 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Brytani

CBS and document authentication: a match made in heaven.


19 posted on 03/24/2006 2:22:32 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Brytani

They will move earth and heaven if they think they can show these released documents to be fakes. But won't lift a finger if someone slips them a secret document saying Bush is a KKK memeber.


20 posted on 03/24/2006 2:22:49 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Bingo! Among other things, I'm sure.


21 posted on 03/24/2006 2:22:58 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: pissant
I remember a year or so ago, the liberals were citing a "study" that showed FoxNews viewers were stupider than CNN viewers because more Fox viewers believed there was a connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.

The evidence has been out there for a decade or more, though this new stuff is even more conclusive.

People who get their news from CNN, the NY Times, or DU still don't know these facts. In their mind, that makes them smarter.

22 posted on 03/24/2006 2:23:59 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: pissant
This is all going to drip, drip, drip into a giant snowball against the spineless / lying / spinning left by November.

Great process (tangible in certain aspects) is going to continue to be made as well over the next 7 months in the GWOT -

Bad time to be a terrorist as well as a Democrat.

23 posted on 03/24/2006 2:24:14 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: My2Cents

Those "other things" include that one of the biggest reasons for intelligence failures sat on the commission.


24 posted on 03/24/2006 2:24:14 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

This is only the tip of the iceberg that will come out of these documents and the MSM will be forced into reporting on them, IMHO.


25 posted on 03/24/2006 2:24:36 PM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: pissant

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


I really want to send this stuff to my friends from college who ever so strongly believed that Saddam and bin Laden had NOTHING in common and would never THINK of working together.


But after winning so many elections, why should I be a sore winner?


26 posted on 03/24/2006 2:25:06 PM PST by Wolfram (" Can you pick out the one word there you probably shouldn't have said?"--Angel)
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To: capt. norm

Well, the Sun is a small time paper. Can't afford word check. LOL


27 posted on 03/24/2006 2:25:20 PM PST by pissant
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To: capt. norm
This guy:

Not this guy:


28 posted on 03/24/2006 2:25:43 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: pissant

Yes, the infamous "Gore-Lick".


29 posted on 03/24/2006 2:26:19 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: pissant

CBS will probably come up with a document showing Bush gave his calling card to an Iraqi intelligence agent so Iraq could call Osama.

Yea, that's the ticket.


30 posted on 03/24/2006 2:26:20 PM PST by Brytani
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To: Wolfram

Awwww, go ahead and make their day. Will be fun to get them in a dither.


31 posted on 03/24/2006 2:27:42 PM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: Brytani

Rove Make Him Do It!!!


32 posted on 03/24/2006 2:28:38 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: My2Cents

Make = Made (sheesh)


33 posted on 03/24/2006 2:28:59 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: pissant
NRO has a short pice with some outstanding links to old articles.

The 9/11 Commission and its staff, aided and abetted by their fawning fans in the establishment press, did their level best to bury, marginalize and dilute any suggestion that Iraq and al Qaeda had a meaningful relationship. After all, the lack of a tie to the terrorists would have meant a lack of a rationale to extend the war on terror to Iraq, which would please war opponents, make the Bush administration appear foolish, and, in general, help the Kerry campaign. We talked about it here while it was happening back in summer 2004 (see, e.g., here and here). ...

Well, well, well. It looks like the Iraq intel files may be starting to change perceptions. 9/11 Commission Bob Kerrey, for one, is certainly singing a different tune according to todays NYSun:

The new documents suggest that the 9/11 commission's final conclusion in 2004, that there were no "operational" ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda, may need to be reexamined in light of the recently captured documents.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/06_03_19_corner-archive.asp#093305

The linked articles ("here" and "here" above) are:

The 9/11 Commission raises more questions than it answers and
The newspaper of record withholds Iraq/Qaeda connection evidence

Both articles are from 2004, and the one that knocks the NYT is the better one of the two, IMO.

34 posted on 03/24/2006 2:29:03 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: pissant
The liberals' little house of cards is collapsing.

This is what happens when you use un-truths and deception to reach your goal.

It would have been better for them if they had never brought it up in the first place.

Doesn't matter if the MSM runs the story. Everybody knows, you get the real news online. You don't have to accept one point of view, you can shop around and compare....see what makes sense.

The "entertainment networks" (ABC, CBS, NBC) will have to bow out of their money-losing news operations. It won't happen soon, but the erosion is already showing and, at some point, the bean counters are going to have to start raising red flags.

35 posted on 03/24/2006 2:29:34 PM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything.)
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To: pissant

The entire lib-dem establishment is so deeply saddened that this story will never see the front page of the NYT or the WashPost. This is definitely one of those stories that's not fit for the drive-by media to print.


36 posted on 03/24/2006 2:29:58 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: dead

People that rely on the MSM are almost universally ignorant of the facts, and a vast majority of them are stupid as well.


37 posted on 03/24/2006 2:30:58 PM PST by pissant
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To: DevSix

Might Bush and Cheney been responsible for the delay in getting this stuff released? Machiavellian minds want to know.


38 posted on 03/24/2006 2:31:54 PM PST by pissant
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To: My2Cents
Going by that John Kerry picture, he looks more like Herman Munster.

I wonder if he receives unsolicited bids from undertakers.

39 posted on 03/24/2006 2:32:46 PM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything.)
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To: jazusamo

I saw the APs first stab at it was an excerpt from the document where Saddam says he has no WMDs. They ignored the rest of the document that contradicts himself. Pathetic.


40 posted on 03/24/2006 2:33:13 PM PST by pissant
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To: Wolfram

LOL. Salt in the wound is sometimes good.


41 posted on 03/24/2006 2:33:48 PM PST by pissant
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To: My2Cents

That is a real bad visual!


42 posted on 03/24/2006 2:34:26 PM PST by pissant
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To: My2Cents

Great question!


43 posted on 03/24/2006 2:34:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Echo Talon

Yes. My point exactly.


44 posted on 03/24/2006 2:35:04 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Brytani

LOL. I'm sure Mary Mapes at ABC now, is still looking for Lucy Ramirez too!


45 posted on 03/24/2006 2:35:14 PM PST by pissant
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To: Cboldt

Excellent post. Thanks


46 posted on 03/24/2006 2:36:02 PM PST by pissant
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To: kittymyrib

I love the liberal myth that the NY Times was pro war back in 2003.


47 posted on 03/24/2006 2:37:06 PM PST by pissant
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To: capt. norm

It can't happen soon enough. Maybe just run 15 mins of weather and 15 mins of sports. Might improve their moribund ratings.


48 posted on 03/24/2006 2:38:23 PM PST by pissant
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To: My2Cents

Next we'll hear Cheney shot the document all the way to Rove..snicker


49 posted on 03/24/2006 2:38:37 PM PST by Brytani
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To: My2Cents

Able Danger?


50 posted on 03/24/2006 2:39:34 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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