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Cosmetics firm using remains of executed Chinese
World Tribune (UK) ^ | 3/23/06 | Staff

Posted on 03/24/2006 6:58:47 PM PST by indthkr

A Chinese cosmetics company has been using skin taken from the bodies of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe, a London newspaper reported.

An agent for the company informed customers it is developing collagen for lip and wrinkle treatments from skin taken from prisoners after they had been shot.

The agent said some of the company‘s products have been exported to Britain, and that the use of skin from condemned convicts was “traditional" and nothing to “make such a big fuss about,“ the Guardian reported In addition to ethical concerns, there is the potential risk of infection from the harvested skin products.

The company was not identified by name for legal reasons and it is unclear whether collagen made from the skin of prisoners was in the research stage or in actual production.

“A lot of the research is still carried out in the traditional manner using skin from the executed prisoners and aborted fetus," the agent was quoted as saying. The material, he said, was being bought from “biotech" companies based in Heilongjiang Province and was being developed elsewhere in China.

He suggested that the use of skin and other tissues harvested from executed prisoners was not uncommon. “In China it is considered very normal and I was very shocked that Western countries can make such a big fuss about this," he said.

In the past, human rights groups have charged that China was using organs harvested from executed prisoners for medical transplants both domestically and internationally. China executed about 3,400 prisoners last year, according to Amnesty International.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; biotech; china; cosmetics; humanbonefurniture; humanfatsoap; humanhairstuffing; humantissue; plyersntoothfillings; prisoners; skinlampshades; walmartsfriend
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Nice.

I'm expecting the next Chinese imported product bound for Wal Mart shelves to be "Soylent Green".
1 posted on 03/24/2006 6:58:50 PM PST by indthkr
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To: indthkr
Aww, man! That is SICK!
2 posted on 03/24/2006 7:01:22 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." - Capt. Mal Reynolds)
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To: indthkr

yes but why worry when its good bottom line and
great profit margins

isnt that all that matters


3 posted on 03/24/2006 7:01:49 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: indthkr
An agent for the company informed customers it is developing collagen for lip and wrinkle treatments from skin taken from prisoners after they had been shot.

Puffy lips from dead people. Pleasant thought.

4 posted on 03/24/2006 7:02:10 PM PST by holymoly (Dick DeVos for MI Governor: http://www.devosforgovernor.com/)
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To: indthkr

Didn't the Nazis make lampshades out of the skins of concentration camp victims?


5 posted on 03/24/2006 7:02:35 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (You know a liberal has lost the argument when he calls you a Nazi.)
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To: indthkr; A. Pole; Willie Green; Paleo Conservative; Nowhere Man

THIS IS GROSS!!

This is the kind of culture American corporate executives want to do business with?


6 posted on 03/24/2006 7:03:05 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: indthkr

"the use of skin from condemned convicts was “traditional" and nothing to “make such a big fuss about,“ "

Ain't that F'in great!! What the hell is next, lampshades?


7 posted on 03/24/2006 7:03:19 PM PST by spanalot
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To: indthkr

The Chinese were already executing prisoners to order for the organ transplant market.

And there was another story that was so horrible I won't discuss it here, since the Hong Kong reporter who wrote about it disappeared and the facts are uncertain.


8 posted on 03/24/2006 7:03:32 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: indthkr
What? Me worry?

No skin off MY back.

Leni

9 posted on 03/24/2006 7:04:44 PM PST by MinuteGal (Sail the Bounding Main to the Balmy, Palmy Caribbean on FReeps Ahoy 4. Register Now!)
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To: indthkr

Not fresh news. However, China is not alone in harvesting tissue of deceased humans.


10 posted on 03/24/2006 7:04:53 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Cicero

And there was another story that was so horrible I won't discuss it here

How about a link to the story?


11 posted on 03/24/2006 7:05:57 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: indthkr
the Guardian reported In addition to ethical concerns, there is the potential risk of infection from the harvested skin products.

I'd say the ethical concerns were pretty major...

12 posted on 03/24/2006 7:06:10 PM PST by tomzz
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To: indthkr
This thread needs a picture of...


13 posted on 03/24/2006 7:07:20 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (Going armed to the terror of the public.)
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To: indthkr

YUK. I think I will be skipping the makeup for fuller lips and I will be keeping my wrinkles and liking them.


14 posted on 03/24/2006 7:07:23 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: indthkr
Soylent Yellow
15 posted on 03/24/2006 7:08:08 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: indthkr

How much money can we make off them to make this worthwhile ?


16 posted on 03/24/2006 7:09:05 PM PST by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: indthkr
Yechh!!!

Talk about letting somebody "Under your skin..."

17 posted on 03/24/2006 7:12:37 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: indthkr; All

You might be too young to remember

Abortion in America

On January 22, 1973, the United States Supreme Court decided that a pre-born baby was not a person. Between that date to 1990 more than 20 million "legal" abortions were performed. Today, fetuses are being literally torn apart in the womb while they are still alive. This is being done under the guise of using their body parts for medical research.

According to Federal and State courts, abortions are permitted anytime up to full term, but not after the birth of a child. It is interesting that a mother who kills a newborn baby is charged with murder or manslaughter, however a mother who kills a baby even up to just prior to the babies birth is considered a person who has just exercised her free choice and is fully protected under the law. What a miraculous difference passage through the birth canal makes in the law.

Abortion is the number one killer over cardio-vascular disease, which takes second place. This makes a mother's womb statistically the most dangerous place for a child to be. Another way to put it is that a child is more likely to be murdered in the womb than anywhere else. This puts a damper on the old adage "safe in a mother's womb." We can only ask ourselves why this has come to be the case. This article hopes to show that it is merely an attitude of our society and the courts.

Greedy Business

It is well known that abortion is a major business in the United States. There were about 5500 abortuaries in the United States by 1990. These abortuaries take in more than half a billion dollars a year. Additional money is taken in from the sale of aborted fetal tissue used for cosmetics and some medical experiments. Planned Parenthood, whose clinics perform over 80,000 abortions annually, receives about 30 million dollars a year from Title X appropriations that come directly from tax money that was meant to be used for "preventative family planning services." This, in effect, is America's own holocaust. For the sake of human greed, there are three babies aborted for every one baby born in the District of Columbia and one baby aborted for each baby born in New York City.

Inhumane Religion

Michael R. Gilstrap was quoted in The Phineas Report to say "abortion is an act of religious faith…it affirms a belief in man as ultimate rather than as created in the image of God. It is a commitment to an alien faith that rivals Christianity at the most fundamental levels." We see that he is on to something true by looking at how abortion has been called "a woman's right," and a "part of freedom of choice." Many high schools and even elementary schools have taught their students that abortion is "just one method of contraception." Abortion has even been cited as "in the mainstream of the nation's religious tradition" by Federal Judge John F. Dooling, Jr. He also listed a statement in his decision from American Baptists, United Methodists, United Presbyterians, Episcopals, and Evangelical Lutherans that "continuance of pregnancy is not a moral necessity."

Self-indulgence

Many abortions in the United States are performed to cover up pre- or extra-marital sex. Less than three percent of all abortions are performed for medical reasons or following rape or incest; 97 percent are strictly a matter of convenience. 25 Percent of abortions are repeats - they had one or more prior abortions and are generally young and unmarried.

Economic Convenience

The 1984 vice-presidential nominee, Geraldine Ferraro, was quoted to say, "[Abortion] is a simple matter of economics. Unwanted children so often end up in the criminal justice systems…it is very expensive to take care of them." In addition to this abhorrent thinking, pro-abortion advocates' arguments include "abortion is a method of easing poverty levels," "abortion is a remedy for sexual promiscuity," and "abortion is a way of building a 'planned' and 'perfect' society."

Hippocratic Denial

The Hippocratic Oath, to which physicians once subscribed states, "I will not give a woman a pessary (contraceptive) to produce abortion." However, comments in the Journal for American Academy of Pediatrics include: "Handicapped children may have less (social) value than dogs or pigs with 'superior capacities'," and "Once the religious mumbo-jumbo surrounding the term 'human' has been stripped away…we will not regard as sacrosanct the life of each and every member of our species."

Population Control

The New York Times hailed Red China's policy, to abort any child per family over one, as "most effective in implementing birth control and population planning." In communist-dominated Poland, 700,000 children were born while 800,000 children were aborted.

The Sad Truth

The society and world in which we live has been lulled into believing that the pre-born baby is simply "fetal tissue" and not a living entity until delivery (or, at the earliest, the third trimester). Abortion is compared, by abortion advocates, as no different than having a tooth pulled or getting a haircut.

What they don't want you to know is that the pre-born baby is a living human being who dies a painful death when aborted. By the seventh week, the child has its own (measurable) brain waves. The presence of brain waves is one of the legal criteria for determining whether an individual is alive or dead. Twenty-six doctors sent President Reagan a letter emphasizing that scientific methods make it clear that pre-born babies feel pain during abortion. They pointed out that "nerves are in place by six to eight weeks after conception, chemicals to transmit sensations from nerves through the spinal cord to the brain exist by twelve weeks, the fetus reacts the same way a full-grown individual would when exposed to something painful, by squirming, thrashing, accelerated heart-beat and higher blood pressure." In addition, it is known that at six weeks, the kidneys, stomach, and liver begin to function; at seven weeks, the baby has its outer and inner organs; at ten weeks, the baby has everything found in a newborn baby; and, at twelve weeks, the fingerprints are completely formed.

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor warned "the Roe [v. Wade] framework…is clearly on a collision course with itself…it has no justification in law or logic."


18 posted on 03/24/2006 7:15:19 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: RightWhale
"China is not alone in harvesting tissue of deceased humans."

Very true. I believe that it can be done here in the U.S. as well, but the extent of the protocols and restrictions over here (and just about everywhere else on the planet) are multiple-orders-of-magnitude more restrictive than what that article says.
19 posted on 03/24/2006 7:16:25 PM PST by indthkr
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To: indthkr

White or green "Soylent Green" wafers?


20 posted on 03/24/2006 7:17:31 PM PST by tillacum
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To: spanalot
Ain't that F'in great!! What the hell is next, lampshades?

Bookcovers. And coin purses. Our European ancestors were remarkably creative with human skin. And even some 18th and 19th century Americans. Human bones have found some rather creative uses, outside of cadaver transplants and implants. All of these things aside, most Americans find it easier to smear dead sheep collagen on their faces. There is some ethical dilemma about doing the same with dead human collagen, even for the most hardcore liberal, pro-abort, "animal rights", and anti-human types.

21 posted on 03/24/2006 7:18:17 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: RightWhale

"China is not alone in harvesting tissue of deceased humans."

Its done in the US as well, we are just a little more clinical about it.


22 posted on 03/24/2006 7:20:27 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Only if the skin bared unique tattoos...
23 posted on 03/24/2006 7:20:57 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: indthkr
I smell a whiff of bs with this story. Actually, it smells like a cloud of bs.

Come on people, they are using the skin of executed prisoners for cosmetics? Doesn't that sound like just a wee bit of a stretch, even for the Red Chi Coms?
Not that I would put it past them; I do know that they apparently sell organs from prisoners.
24 posted on 03/24/2006 7:21:07 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: indthkr; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
A Chinese cosmetics company has been using skin taken from the bodies of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe, a London newspaper reported.

Free Market is a fickle friend. Free Market is as Free Market does. Remember that.

25 posted on 03/24/2006 7:21:34 PM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: indthkr

Erm... Not that I defend the Commie Chinese, but f'gossake, that's the World Tribune. And it's also the rumor I heard 30+ years ago about donated blood plasma (Plasma going into lipstick.)


26 posted on 03/24/2006 7:23:16 PM PST by mfulstone
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To: driftdiver

What products do we sell in the U.S. that contains baby tissue? I won't even comment on China. The beam in the eye, thing.


27 posted on 03/24/2006 7:27:07 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: wagglebee

moral absolutes ping?


28 posted on 03/24/2006 7:29:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: indthkr

Gack!!! Really makes all that make up worth it. Really, why would one want to put dead people on their faces?


29 posted on 03/24/2006 7:30:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: indthkr

Not the best sourced article is it?


30 posted on 03/24/2006 7:31:13 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Clintonfatigued
Stock holders love em....

What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but loose his soul?...
"Jesus of Nazareth".. Matthew 16:26

31 posted on 03/24/2006 7:31:16 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Yeah. There is a 1950's documentary titled "Night and Fog" that actually shows this stuff. It is truly an eye opener.
32 posted on 03/24/2006 7:31:32 PM PST by chickenlips
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To: LongElegantLegs

Like my using their makeup will make me look like that? Sure......


33 posted on 03/24/2006 7:31:55 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RightWhale
Nope but probably not many other countries actually plan executions around harvesting their dead comrades body parts while they are still alive and healthy..

Not that just because they are not alone in doing this is any kind of defense for the atrocities they committ...

Heck the USA has killed over 44 million pre born US citizens since Roe V Wade...and lots of folks are making a bundle off of this industry....too

34 posted on 03/24/2006 7:34:14 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: indthkr

I hope that shit never makes it into Estee Lauder, Clinique or Lancome.


35 posted on 03/24/2006 7:35:52 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Talk about ill-informed, no Sir it was Ed Gein who
skinned his victims and used their skin for light diffusing material.


36 posted on 03/24/2006 7:35:59 PM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: indthkr

Oh how grisly.............good God.............


37 posted on 03/24/2006 7:36:51 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Didn't the Nazis make lampshades out of the skins of concentration camp victims?

"Wool" watch caps and socks from "Jew hair".

And even bars of soap. Socialists are nothing if not "efficient"...

38 posted on 03/24/2006 7:43:52 PM PST by null and void (Perhaps hating America is for those for whom hating Jews just isn't enough. - Philippe Roger)
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To: indthkr

With a name like "Rotting Yellow Flesh" it has to be good!!!


39 posted on 03/24/2006 7:45:06 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Tribune7; mfulstone
"Not the best sourced article is it?

.....well, not really. But it's Friday night after all. I guess I could have added a /sarcasm tag.
40 posted on 03/24/2006 7:45:50 PM PST by indthkr
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To: indthkr

And the best part is, it's really cheap.


41 posted on 03/24/2006 7:46:01 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I'm with you.

Turn the page and there is probably a picture of Mao shaking hands with an alien bat boy.


42 posted on 03/24/2006 7:49:24 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: indthkr

This isn't really that new. They've been using aborted fetuses for other things for years. That is one Godless country and while I'm sure there are many wonderful and sweet Chinese people, the oppression there is palpable.

They announced on the Mission News Network the other morning about several house church pastors that are missing. Meanwhile, one of the pastors who'd been taken some time ago wrote about his experiences as a captive and the torture was so horrible, I just broke down and cried. I mean, you get the usual, beatings and stuff, but they have these helmets - I think they call them noise helmets - and they emit a high, piercing horrible sound directly into the person's ears for long periods of time. Also, they do not let them sleep - they try to drive people insane.

If anyone doesn't think there is spiritual warfare going on, they aren't paying attention.

Okay, now I can get off my soapbox (I feel so much better now).


43 posted on 03/24/2006 7:53:34 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: indthkr
My GOD You people ... haven't you ever wondered where BABY OIL comes from !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its from unwanted Chinese babies!!!!!
44 posted on 03/24/2006 7:59:11 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: TXFireman

ping


45 posted on 03/24/2006 8:01:51 PM PST by Jonx6
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To: indthkr

Nice.


46 posted on 03/24/2006 8:02:45 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: MaDuce

I don't think I want to know about Girl Scout Cookies...


47 posted on 03/24/2006 8:03:39 PM PST by null and void (Perhaps hating America is for those for whom hating Jews just isn't enough. - Philippe Roger)
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To: indthkr
A Chinese cosmetics company has been using skin taken from the bodies of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe, a London newspaper reported.

The benefits of free trade never cease to amaze me.

In the midwest somewhere a few years ago, a kid ended up with lead poisoning after accidentally swallowing some cheap chinese toy from one of those vending machines.
48 posted on 03/24/2006 8:03:54 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: indthkr

All these posts and no mention of Fight Club.


49 posted on 03/24/2006 8:04:33 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: indthkr

Holy jumping sh*t!!!


50 posted on 03/24/2006 8:05:35 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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