[crabapple joe]

It doesn't matter. What our senators must remember is most of those 500,000 do not vote (legally that is) So if our Senators want to keep their jobs they better worry about the silent majority that is fed up with illegal immigration.

The problem is that Baby Bush wants to legalize 10-15 million illegals and he will take the Republican Party down with him. So what are all those yuppie "conservatives" driving up and down the highways with "W" stickers going to do....vote for Hillary. I think not. But if you mention one of the few true patriots who want to maintain our way of life (e.g. Pat Buchanan) on this forum you will be pilloried. We need a third party that stands up for the values of Western Civiliztion that founded and made this country what it once was. The folks with their "W" stickers will still go out and vote for the "conservative" Repulican party next time even after they have given away the country to an invading force. The Senators you mention realize that blacks will vote for their own interests, and hispanics will do the same, but white "conservatives" will not...they'll just go put another "W" sticker on their car and then bitch and moan about the fact that they have to "press one to speak English"...

[Serenissima Venezia]

The folks with their "W" stickers will still go out and vote for the "conservative" Repulican party...

I hope enough of us have learned our lesson. The day 'W' called the Minutemen 'vigilantes' is the day I scraped the "W" stickers off my car and tore up my "Moms 4 Bush" T-shirt for a car rag. From here on out, I'm voting for the candidate only - not their party. And I'm only voting my conscious, not for the lesser of 2 evils. I should've voted for McClintock (he had the best answer to the question about illegals - something about the operative word was 'illegal') and I should've stayed out of the 2004 Presidential election. If enough of us stay firm on this 1) the GOP will become conservative again eventually or 2) a true conservative 3rd party will emerge from the ashes eventually.

[staytrue]

Pat has a lot of silly ideas. Pat came real close to getting al gore elected in 2000. Pat is an isolationist.

My advice is to argue your points for getting rid of the illegals without bringing up pat.

[Holden Magroin]

The reason nobody is turning to Pat Puke Cannon is that he's too busy writing press releases for Arab terrorists.