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Communists boiled babies: Berlusconi
Herald Sun ^ | 27 March 2006

Posted on 03/26/2006 3:29:51 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

ITALIAN Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, fighting for re-election against a centre-left coalition which includes the hard left, said today communists have a history of boiling babies.

"I have been accused many times of saying communists eat babies," he told a rally of his Forza Italia (Go Italy!) party.

"Go and read the black book on communism and you'll find that under Mao's China they didn't eat babies but they boiled them to fertilise the fields.

"They say we look to the past too much, but they forget that in the opposition there are three parties who proudly call themselves communists."

Mr Berlusconi has often been accused of being obsessed with the "communist threat" in Italy, a country where during the Cold War the communist party was bigger than anywhere else in western Europe.

In the run-up to winning the 2001 election, Berlusconi said: "I can organise a conference in which I will prove communists have really eaten babies and done even worse things."

With the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union, most of the Italian Communist Party transformed itself into the Democrats of the Left, now Italy's main opposition party.

But smaller breakaway communist parties still exist.

The biggest, Communist Refoundation, is likely to poll 6-7 per cent of the vote at the April 9-10 election, opinion polls indicate. Another party, Italian Communists, may get up to three per cent.

Polls put the centre-left bloc, led by former European Commission President Romano Prodi, 4-5 percentage points ahead of Mr Berlusconi's centre-right.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: babies; berlusconi; china; communists; election; italy; mao; russia
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Got to admit, communists do not have a great history with babies...still don't!
1 posted on 03/26/2006 3:29:54 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

Mao was just upset because all the babies were afraid of that weird mole on his chin.


2 posted on 03/26/2006 3:36:50 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The Italians have the world's lowest birth rate.
They are killing themselves off, with no help from the commies.
Perhaps, though, the commie party leads the abortion issue, the smaller family drive. I don't trust the commies; never did; never will.
3 posted on 03/26/2006 3:37:24 PM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Kill a commie for mommie


4 posted on 03/26/2006 3:41:46 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Aussie Dasher
Go and read the black book on communism and you'll find that under Mao's China they didn't eat babies but they boiled them to fertilise the fields.

And to think we had people in the media and academia defending these wackos and still do.

5 posted on 03/26/2006 3:42:21 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: MaDuce

Nice little red x. Did they really eat them too?


7 posted on 03/26/2006 3:46:51 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

That Mao! Always practical.

If you have to kill a few million babies, you'd might as well put them to use as fertilizer to help the Five Year plan along.

And it makes good Communist scientific sense to boil them, so there won't be any chance that these politically incorrect babies will spread their germs onto the wheat, and thereby endanger the party cadres who get to eat the wheat, while the peasants starve.


8 posted on 03/26/2006 3:47:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bboop

Sorry, it was a Snopes.com picture. Maybe they block it or something.

It comes up fine in my Preview.


9 posted on 03/26/2006 3:50:01 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: Aussie Dasher
This is the book that Berlusconi is talking about "The Black Book of Communism" Crimes, Terror, Repression Stéphane Courtois, Nicolas Werth, Jean-Louis Panné, Andrzej Paczkowski, Karel Bartosek, Jean-Louis Margolin. Harvard University Press.
10 posted on 03/26/2006 3:50:41 PM PST by Panerai
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To: bboop

Check here http://www.snopes.com/horrors/graphics/fetus.jpg.


11 posted on 03/26/2006 3:51:33 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: MaDuce
The way I read it on snopes, the pic is a fake.

Claim: Taiwan's hottest restaurants offer grilled and barbequed fetuses.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]

12 posted on 03/26/2006 3:51:34 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Aussie Dasher

Take a look at what happened in the Ukraine in the 1930s. 12 MILLION dead from starvation and summary execution on the theory that if the farmer had grain in the barn he was hiding a lot more, so they took all of what he had on hand and he and his family starved to death, and if he didn't have any grain he was obviously hiding some, so they shot him and his family as counter-revolutionaries. They didn't need to boil babies for fertilizer - there was plenty of fertilizer available.


13 posted on 03/26/2006 3:53:07 PM PST by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: Panerai

A must read.

Just finished Anne Applebaums, "Gulag", and Bardach's "Man is Wolf to Man"

Also reccomend "Koba the Dread" and "Harvest of Sorrow."


14 posted on 03/26/2006 3:54:33 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Cicero
That Mao! Always practical.

Yup definitely a great guy, sounds just like the type you'd want to have over during your new year's eve party for a few laughs.

15 posted on 03/26/2006 3:54:39 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: ItsForTheChildren
The way I read it on snopes, the pic is a fake. Claim: Taiwan's hottest restaurants offer grilled and barbequed fetuses. Status: False.

(In your best Foghorn Leghorn voice) ... I's a joke son, don't you get it!

16 posted on 03/26/2006 3:54:51 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: Aussie Dasher

http://www.chinasucks.org/fetal.htm


17 posted on 03/26/2006 3:54:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Ironclad

Communism killed hundreds of millions during its reign of terror. Hitler was an amateur by comparison!


18 posted on 03/26/2006 3:55:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"A must read." - I bought it when it first came out a few years ago.


19 posted on 03/26/2006 3:55:45 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Ironclad

Robert Conquest's "Harvest of Sorrow" noted that for each LETTER in his book 20 people died in the collectivazation famine. His book is 441 pages long.


20 posted on 03/26/2006 3:55:51 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

HOS is the book about which I'm talking. Ruin your whole day.


21 posted on 03/26/2006 3:56:13 PM PST by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: Ironclad

Yep, but must never be forgotten.


22 posted on 03/26/2006 3:57:18 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Aussie Dasher

Word I hear is that Burlusconi is walzing into a bloodletting at the upcoming elections. Any insights?


23 posted on 03/26/2006 3:58:22 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I thought Conquest was unsure about the stats, since a lot of the population decline in the Ukraine could have been war related. The Bolshies obviously didn't keep very good records on their own genocide. 20 million was the total between 1930 and 1950, but dividing it between the war and the famine was problematical. It's been a long time since I read the book, but that's what I recall.


24 posted on 03/26/2006 3:58:55 PM PST by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: HitmanLV

From what I hear, it's not looking good for him.


25 posted on 03/26/2006 3:59:09 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: MaDuce

My apologies. I didn't get the implied /sarcasm tag. :-) Sometimes just don't know for sure.


26 posted on 03/26/2006 4:02:04 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Aussie Dasher

I can't remember if cannabalism was specifically mentioned in "Mao, The Untold Story"...
but the mention of starvation and caloric depravation (to pay for
export of aid/weapons to other countries) was so high under Mao...
that I wouldn't be shocked if some poor peasants didn't have to resort
to the practice just to survive.


27 posted on 03/26/2006 4:02:06 PM PST by VOA
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To: Aussie Dasher

Italy's not already communist like France?


28 posted on 03/26/2006 4:04:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Hard to tell. Depends on who you talk to.


29 posted on 03/26/2006 4:06:08 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: MaDuce

I can't access the site.Is it me?


30 posted on 03/26/2006 4:24:11 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: Thombo2

"I can't access the site.Is it me?"

It must be ... try this link:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.htm


31 posted on 03/26/2006 4:28:40 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: Aussie Dasher

So, there are varying degrees of communists: Maoists, Leninists, Marxists, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Clintons, Socialists, Democrats, and DUmmies.

I need more information because I can't tell the difference.

32 posted on 03/26/2006 4:34:53 PM PST by Fintan (Hey, you can't make this stuff up.)
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To: Fintan

Communists are bloody communists. End of story!


33 posted on 03/26/2006 4:36:34 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: MaDuce

Yepp,that works.Looks interesting.Thanx


34 posted on 03/26/2006 4:37:15 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: Aussie Dasher

So I was right all along...they all murder their children.

35 posted on 03/26/2006 4:56:17 PM PST by Fintan (Hey, you can't make this stuff up.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

FYI:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/communist_musings.htm


36 posted on 03/26/2006 4:57:40 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: Fintan

They're STILL at it! Strange crew...


37 posted on 03/26/2006 4:59:38 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

It is about time we say it over and over again - Hitler only dreamed of killing as many enemies as the enemies commies killed. Everything the left touches shrivels up and dies.


38 posted on 03/26/2006 6:03:37 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Coleus


39 posted on 03/26/2006 6:05:09 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Marking!


40 posted on 03/26/2006 6:08:08 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: Aussie Dasher

You're absolutely right. The Communist candidate in the last election (Kerry) was for killing babies.


41 posted on 03/26/2006 6:50:09 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

And the Communist candidate in the next will be exactly the same!


42 posted on 03/26/2006 6:53:00 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Calpernia; ALOHA RONNIE; SOLDIEROFJESUSCHRIST; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ...
Mao's China they didn't eat babies but they boiled them to fertilize the fields. >>

didn't they do this in Vietnam too? they thought cemeteries were a waste of land, money and resources and buried many bodies in farms to fertilize the soil.
43 posted on 03/26/2006 6:55:48 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: Coleus

I don't know what to think Coleus.

I found some messages boards linked off of the Euthanasia Church group's site with recipes for cannibalism.

Young people are prefered. Younger the better.

So do the commies eat people? Fertilize?

They are doing something.

And I would like to go back to being clueless soccer mom now. (I've been saying that for a while though....and I'm still here)


44 posted on 03/26/2006 7:09:06 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

there's a lot of bad news out there, sometimes it's just good to not go near it and take a week or so off.


45 posted on 03/26/2006 9:44:32 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: Ironclad

Such statistics are always nebulous. The wide ranges in possible democide deaths as reported by Rummel is a good example.


I suppose proximate cause mattered little to those caught up in it.


46 posted on 03/27/2006 5:11:31 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Aussie Dasher

Good for Berlusconi. The young are still ignorant of the glories of communism.


47 posted on 03/27/2006 6:50:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aussie Dasher; cgk

Abortion is worse than Communism. Believe it.


48 posted on 03/27/2006 10:18:17 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hitler and Stalin have nothing on Abortion)
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To: aussie; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

49 posted on 03/27/2006 9:59:31 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the ping!


50 posted on 03/27/2006 10:34:16 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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