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U.S. vs. the Mahdi Army
Fourth Rail ^ | 3/26/06 | Bill Roggio

Posted on 03/26/2006 6:42:22 PM PST by bnelson44

U.S. and Iraqi forces mix it up with Sadr's Mahdi Army at a Baghdad Mosque, around 20 Madhi fighters killed

U.S. forces appear to have struck at Muqtada al-Sadr's Shiite Madhi Army at a "husseiniya" (a Shi’ite house of worship) in Baghdad. Belmont Club rounds up reports from Zayed at Healing Iraq and the BBC. The Washington Post also reports on the event but states Iraqi forces were involved in the battle. U.S. military has yet to confirm the incident. The news accounts indicate anywhere from 18 to 21 Madhi militiamen were killed during the raid. No word on any U.S or Iraqi Army casualties. In a seemingly unrelated incident, Sadr's home in Najaf was the target of a mortar attack.

The impending fight against the Shiite militias, and particularly Sadr's Mahdi Army, has been telegraphed for some time. On March 18, Strategy Page predicted the ensuing conflict:

The U.S. has told Iran that the Iraqi Shia militias being supported by Iran (the Sadr and Badr organizations) are going to get taken apart soon, and Iran is well advised to back off when this happens. Hardliners in the already hard line Iranian government, have been helping Badr, Sadr and smaller groups, in order to keep the atmosphere hostile for the United States in Iraq. This has not been particularly popular in Iraq, because it's obvious that the Americans chased Saddam out of power, and made it possible for Shia to run the country. But to old school Iranian Islamic radicals, hating and hurting the United States is more important than anything else.

Earlier this week, Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, accused Iran of sponsoring the Shiite militias and inciting sectarian violence, and alluded to a future reckonning with the militias; "The militias haven't been focused on decisively yet. . . . That will be tough," Ambassador Khalilzad said. "More Iraqis in Baghdad are dying -- if you look at the recent period of two, three weeks -- from the militia attacks than from the terrorist car bombings." On Saturday, Ambassador Khalilzad indicated "The militias need to be under control."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billroggio; deathtomookie; iran; iraq; mahdi; oif; sadr

1 posted on 03/26/2006 6:42:25 PM PST by bnelson44
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To: bnelson44
"The U.S. has told Iran that the Iraqi Shia militias being supported by Iran (the Sadr and Badr organizations) are going to get taken apart soon, and Iran is well advised to back off when this happens"

Like that's going to happen. These people are all going down soon.
2 posted on 03/26/2006 6:45:09 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: bnelson44

We'll slap those majjys around.


3 posted on 03/26/2006 6:46:55 PM PST by DurtySanches (Army 8 Yale 0)
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To: bnelson44
This war will be fought at times and places of our choosing.

Most would be wise to remember that.

4 posted on 03/26/2006 7:00:27 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: bnelson44
The news accounts indicate anywhere from 18 to 21 Madhi militiamen were killed during the raid.

A good start but not nearly enough killed.
5 posted on 03/26/2006 7:00:47 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: bnelson44
I have never been able to understand all of the gross military foul ups in terbinville, but could someone tell me what that sadar clown isn't scattered all over the land scape over there???
6 posted on 03/26/2006 7:09:48 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: bnelson44
The Mahdi Army


7 posted on 03/26/2006 8:10:11 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: bnelson44

Iraq (with a U.S. Assist) vs. the Mahdi Army, Take Two
Multinational Forces - Iraq reports Iraqi Special Forces led the fight against the Madhi militia in Baghdad.

Multinational Forces - Iraq disputes the initial press reports (as well as the second hand report from Iraqi blogger Zayed) which claimed the U.S. military unilaterally conducted the raid in the Ur Hayy district of Baghdad, which sits directly west of Sadr City (formerly known as Saddam City, see maps). Note that in our initial post, we pointed out the Washington Post reported Iraqi forces were involved in the battle. If the target was a mosque, or a sensitive target such as Sadr's militia, it is logical that the U.S. would want the Iraqi Security Forces leading the fight for political and symbolic reasons.

The Multinational Forces - Iraq press release indicates the raid was "in the Adhamiyah neighborhood in northeast Baghdad to disrupt a terrorist cell responsible for conducting attacks on Iraqi security and Coalition Forces and kidnapping Iraqi civilians in the local area." The raid was carried out by "elements of the 1st Iraqi Special Operations Forces Brigade..." with "U.S. Special Operations Forces... in an advisory capacity only." Fifteen insurgents were killed and sixteen captured after a gunfight, and one Iraqi soldier was wounded. One foreign hostage was freed and a weapons cache was discovered. MNF-Iraq is clear that "No mosques were entered or damaged during this operation."

The New York Times refers to the target as a mosque, but then refers to it as a "prayer room". In fact a "husseiniya" can be a mosque, a prayer room or just "a place of Hussein," which may be adding to the confusion. The news report shows that whatever the structure was, it had a dual use purpose: "As night fell, American and Iraqi Army forces surrounded a mosque in northeast Baghdad that is also used as a headquarters for Mr. Sadr's militia, Iraqi officials said. Helicopters buzzed overhead as a fleet of heavily armed Humvees sealed off the exits, witnesses said. When the soldiers tried to enter the mosque, shooting erupted, and a heavy caliber gun battle raged for the next hour." Mosques and schools have been repeatedly used by al-Qaeda, insurgents and militias for bases of operations since the fall of Saddam's regime, and Sadr, who desecrated the shrine of Imam Ali in Najaf is no stranger to this tactic.

The New York Times also reports Madhi Army militiamen were killed, but then alludes to the possibility those killed may not have been members of the Madhi Army as "Several of them looked well beyond military age." An eighty year old imam was also reported killed. Age certainly has not been an issue for involvement in an insurgency, militia, or terrorist activity, particularly in this part of the world.

While the details of the raid are being sorted out, the fact that Iraqi troops led the fight against Sadr's forces is a far more positive development, as this indicates there is backing at high levels within the Iraqi government for this particular mission, and perhaps for the dismantlement of Sadr's militia. The next few days and weeks will be telling. Will Sadr actively resist a full scale effort to disarm or destroy his militia, if such an effort is in the offering? Or was today's raid a warning shot? Sadr must be quite concerned, as must be Sadr's Iranian masters.

Maps and other info here:

http://billroggio.com/archives/2006/03/iraq_with_a_us_assis.php#comments


8 posted on 03/26/2006 9:11:56 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: org.whodat

Don't like good news?


9 posted on 03/26/2006 9:18:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Allegra

ping


10 posted on 03/26/2006 9:47:53 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44
Interesting how the New York Slimes insists on calling it a "mosque" -- when it evidently wasn't. And alludes that all those killed weren't "of military age" -- when they should know that's irrelevant.

Ignorance? Or willful misinformation?

11 posted on 03/26/2006 9:56:54 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: bnelson44

It looks more and more like eventually this Sadr toad is going to cause someone to kill him.


12 posted on 03/27/2006 7:33:05 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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