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To: truemiester
Nostradamus made many obscure references, specifically, to "the prince" and his main anti-christ, a character named MABUS.. ( in some translations, MALUS, which would mean "evil".. I prefer the latter interpretation.. )

While Nosty refers to the middle east and Libya in a few of his prophetic verses, nothing is ever specific enough to point to a recognizable coming event..

Actually, it is even unclear whether MALUS is the actual anti-christ, or is the final precursor to the anti-christ..

As for whether MALUS or the anti-christ actually comes out of the middle east, far east, or even America, is left unclear, vague, and confusing..
That "Blue Turban" guy comes out of a wildly inaccurate TV documentary hosted / narrated by one of those Star Trek TNG guys.. ( one of the 10 worst Nostradamus documentaries ever done.. )

Let me finish by explaining why...
Nostradamus was actually unconcerned with world events and their future outcome..
His only true concern in making his prophecies was...
France..

Yeah, all those prophecies are made in relation with France, and the future of France, how it will affect France, will France approve, etc...
Likewise, the few actual times, ( day, month, year ) that Nosty uses are questionable as well..
The adoption of the Gregorian calendar was made about this time, and depending on which calendric system he used, there may be a variation of several years between his date for a prophecy and ours..

So take it all with a grain of salt, and anything you hear about the prophecies of Nostradamus should be appreciated for it's entertainment value only..

18 posted on 03/28/2006 4:17:51 AM PST by Drammach (In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king..)
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To: Drammach

I think the TV show I remember was the one with the Orson Wells.


65 posted on 03/28/2006 8:26:44 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Drammach
Yes everything was centered around France, the one thing I remember from reading that stuff about 20 years ago was that France would once again have to be saved (probably by us) from muslims making war on them from within their country.

When I read it 20 years ago (one of the few things you could understand) I could not imagine muslims succeeding in marching through Europe to get to France, not with us there protecting Europe not with European armies and not with countries as technologically unadvanced as islamic countries.....I did not realize that France was letting them in one by one.

78 posted on 03/28/2006 10:38:39 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Drammach
Actually, I think Nostradamus bore down on the Moslems in these times; you can see my musings on the antichrist - in light of Nost and Biblical references - at:
my web site,
which translates much of the French seer's work into Hebrew.

I mention this because of references on this thread to _Hamas_. This page [linked above] traces a thread connected with the name _Ham_ from the time of the flood unto today.

I agree with you in the main that Nost's precognitions were connected with France; in translating some of his verses into Hebrew, and in the context he presented, some of his quatrains appear to be mirrors of some Bible prophecies, and can expand upon some of the specific instances in the Bible [in the same way that Josephus expanded the context of much of OT history.]

I know of no instance of the variant _Malus_ for _Mabus_ [II 62] in any authorized original text; do you have a reference for this?

On the matter of Nost's dates and the Gregorian Calendar, you might find my
calendar page instructive. It accounts for all of Nost's dates except the X 72 date, 1999.

Despite this extended scholarship of mine regarding The Centuries, I agree that a light attitude on the reader's part will serve best. I am astounded at the conclusions people jump to in connection with some of the vaguest language.

I will argue, however, that some progress can be made by translating some of the vaticinations into Hebrew: Nost's natural tongue.

By the by: IMHO Hal Lindsey seems to have done more damage to Biblical prophecy than any other commentator; while Lindsey awaits the Pope putting on a set of horns, jumping into a tank and heading for Jerusalem, the import of the whole panoply of the peersecution of Christianity by Islam is escaping all his followers.

FReegards,
Bob Ireland

89 posted on 03/28/2006 11:13:46 AM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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