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Teddy Roosevelt on Immigration
CNN ^ | March 27, 2006 | Lou Dobbs

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:07:17 AM PST by Mel Gibson

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

--Theodore Roosevelt, 1919

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; invasion; presidents; teddyroosevelt; tr
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1 posted on 03/28/2006 7:07:18 AM PST by Mel Gibson
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To: Mel Gibson
Huh and President Bush yesterday said that new immigrants should learn English.

Poor Louie dobbs, he's losing his cash cow and he knows it.

2 posted on 03/28/2006 7:09:28 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Mel Gibson

So much for the "African-American" theory.


3 posted on 03/28/2006 7:09:53 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: Mel Gibson

Wow! I can't believe the C-word network posted that!


4 posted on 03/28/2006 7:09:57 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Mel Gibson

Good quote there Mel - but much has changed since 1919 - I don't think women could vote, for instance. Should we repeal the 19th Amendment now too?


5 posted on 03/28/2006 7:10:22 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Dane

I have no idea what you are talking about but do you disagree with anything TR said?


6 posted on 03/28/2006 7:12:07 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Mel Gibson

The date at the end of the post is not possible. Teddy Roosevelt died in 1918.


7 posted on 03/28/2006 7:12:41 AM PST by sunbeamtiger ("I reject your reality and substitute my own" -Adam Savage)
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To: clawrence3

What does your post have to do with anything?


8 posted on 03/28/2006 7:13:11 AM PST by yarddog
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To: clawrence3

"Good quote there Mel - but much has changed since 1919 - I don't think women could vote, for instance. Should we repeal the 19th Amendment now too?"

That's very flawed logic. The constitution was written in the 18th century, much has changed since then... the Bible was written 2000 years ago... much has changed since then...


9 posted on 03/28/2006 7:14:42 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: sunbeamtiger
Teddy Roosevelt died in 1918.

No he didn't.

10 posted on 03/28/2006 7:15:18 AM PST by yarddog
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To: clawrence3
Sounded good to me. What suggested that we repeal the 19th?
I couldn't get the entire article. The Clinton News Network didn't work correctly. - What did I miss?

Cordially
GE
11 posted on 03/28/2006 7:15:36 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Mel Gibson

The link won't load. Can someone cut and paste it?

BTW TR died 6 January 1919.


12 posted on 03/28/2006 7:16:37 AM PST by carrier-aviator
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To: GrandEagle

The date.


13 posted on 03/28/2006 7:17:43 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: brownsfan; yarddog

We don't have slaves anymore either. I'm just asking if it's O.K. to teleport everything back to 1919.


14 posted on 03/28/2006 7:19:29 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Dane
President Bush yesterday said that new immigrants should learn English.

Should learn English?????? Should??? How about MUST, no ifs, ands, or buts about it????

I am disgusted by those who call themselves a hyphenated American.

I agree completely with this statement by T.R.

15 posted on 03/28/2006 7:19:41 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Mel Gibson
"We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Someone tell the "new" Republican Party.

16 posted on 03/28/2006 7:19:58 AM PST by Liberator
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To: Mel Gibson
One thing both the left and the right agree on is they don't want an amnesty program, they don't want a guest worker program. Only Legal immigration
17 posted on 03/28/2006 7:20:28 AM PST by PureTrouble
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To: yarddog
I have no idea what you are talking about but do you disagree with anything TR said?

No I do not disagree with with what TR said.

What I do disagree with is what demagogue king louie dobbs has done with the immigration issue for his own personal aggrandizement at CNN(i.e bashing Bush).

18 posted on 03/28/2006 7:20:28 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: clawrence3
If Roosevelt was right in 1919, he is right today.

I take it you think illegal immigration is just ducky. If not say so and say it plainly.

19 posted on 03/28/2006 7:21:27 AM PST by yarddog
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To: clawrence3
I'll agree that a lot has changed, but I don't see anything that changed the basic premise of immigration - that the immigrants assimilate into our society.
I would haved to agree with the post. I don't see anything remotely indicating the suggestion that we repeal anything.

Cordially,
GE

- Thanks for the response.
20 posted on 03/28/2006 7:22:06 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Dane
No I do not disagree with with what TR said

Somehow I don't believe you.

21 posted on 03/28/2006 7:22:39 AM PST by yarddog
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To: sunbeamtiger
The date at the end of the post is not possible. Teddy Roosevelt died in 1918.

Rep. Tancredo’s website has the quote in 1907 ...

BTW: Died: January 6, 1919 in Oyster Bay, New York

22 posted on 03/28/2006 7:23:30 AM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Should learn English?????? Should??? How about MUST, no ifs, ands, or buts about it????

I am disgusted by those who call themselves a hyphenated American.

I agree completely with this statement by T.R

BTW, before you get on my case, it was SCOTUS in the late 70's and early 80's that mandated bi-lingual education and ballots.

I am for neither. I believe in English immersion in schools and for English only ballots and English being the official language of govt.

23 posted on 03/28/2006 7:23:40 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: clawrence3

What has changed about loyalty to ones country?

What the heck does women voting have to do with the subject of illegal immigration?


24 posted on 03/28/2006 7:24:04 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: yarddog

I thought Teddy died in 1919? Anyways, whenever he said it, the world was much less complicated - his words are not unchanging like Holy Scripture (sorry to point out the obvious, but someone brought up the Bible above). I do not think illegal immigration is ducky - I am in favor of legalization.


25 posted on 03/28/2006 7:25:57 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: GrandEagle

You're welcome. Have a nice day.


26 posted on 03/28/2006 7:26:53 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
"I am in favor of legalization."

Legalization of what?
27 posted on 03/28/2006 7:28:44 AM PST by Rick Deckard
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To: OKIEDOC

Loyalty to one's country has indeed "changed" - we do things differently - we don't start Civil Wars over slavery anymore. The 19th Amendment was just another example of a different way we did things back then, that's all. I would not mind repealing the 19th Amendment BTW.


28 posted on 03/28/2006 7:29:34 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Rick Deckard

Legalization of illegal aliens. I have no problem with the Senate bill out of the Judiciary Committee, for instance.


29 posted on 03/28/2006 7:30:27 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

All 12,000,000 of them? Once those 12,000,000 are granted amnesty; what's going to stop the next batch?


30 posted on 03/28/2006 7:32:47 AM PST by Rick Deckard
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To: sunbeamtiger; Mel Gibson
From Urbanlegends:

Theodore Roosevelt indeed wrote these words....The passages were culled from a letter he wrote to the president of the American Defense Society on January 3, 1919, three days before Roosevelt died.

"Americanization" was a favorite theme of Roosevelt's during his later years, when he railed repeatedly against "hyphenated Americans" and the prospect of a nation "brought to ruins" by a "tangle of squabbling nationalities."

He advocated the compulsory learning of English by every naturalized citizen. "Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or to leave the country," he said in a statement to the Kansas City Star in 1918. "English should be the only language taught or used in the public schools."

He also insisted, on more than one occasion, that America has no room for what he called "fifty-fifty allegiance." In a speech made in 1917 he said, "It is our boast that we admit the immigrant to full fellowship and equality with the native-born. In return we demand that he shall share our undivided allegiance to the one flag which floats over all of us."

31 posted on 03/28/2006 7:34:26 AM PST by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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To: Mel Gibson

"Press #1 for English"


32 posted on 03/28/2006 7:34:48 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Mel Gibson

Bump


33 posted on 03/28/2006 7:36:12 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: dread78645

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphenated_Americans
JFK had something to say about 'hyphenated Americans' since Irish-Americans are some of the worst, pining for the `old Sod.' Not in this article but some say it was inspired more by his resentment at being excluded from WASP country clubs, poor guy.
And Tancredo had a very good response in the latest issue to this lachrymose Reason article.
http://reason.com/0602/fe.jd.americas.shtml


34 posted on 03/28/2006 7:39:57 AM PST by tumblindice ("Momma said they were magic shoes that could take me anywhere I wanted to go." Forrest Gump)
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To: Dane
bashing Bush
I don't listen the the Clinton News Network, but I can say that if Mr. Bush ever deserves criticism, it is on illegal immigration from Mexico.
He refuses to protect us from invasion, and he refuses to enforce US law - nearly to the point of treason .
We can not have security in the "homeland" without secure borders.
The Dems, Bush, and like minded globalists have muddied the picture by suggestion that we who demand that our laws be enforced are somehow opposed to immigration. That is not true. I am opposed to criminals ignoring our laws and illegally entering our country. The Mexican government even has an official department to assist those who desire to violate our border. That, my FRiend, by definition is an invasion; and our Federal Government is required by our Constitution to protect our borders. This is the one thing that Mr. Bush absolutely refuses to do.
That is not bashing - that is stating the truth.

Cordially,
GE
35 posted on 03/28/2006 7:42:29 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: clawrence3
but much has changed since 1919 - I don't think women could vote, for instance.

I fail to see what that has to do with immigration except in a very remote way.

But it's easy to see how you could use it as a cheap shot to try and discredit. Why don't you just admit to your agenda....and explain it?

36 posted on 03/28/2006 7:46:30 AM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything.)
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To: dread78645

Okay, I stand corrected.....early 1919. I thought I knew Teddy's bio well enough. But I was only six days from being correct :D


37 posted on 03/28/2006 7:48:31 AM PST by sunbeamtiger ("I reject your reality and substitute my own" -Adam Savage)
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To: Mel Gibson
The real impact of illegal immigration hit me a few months ago.

I was born and raised in Walton County, Florida. When I was in high school in the 60's, I doubt there were more than three or four Hispanics in the entire county.

I happened to be over at my Fathers and was reading his county newspaper which I do not subscribe to. I happened to notice a list of arrests. More than half had Hispanic names.

This is what we are importing into this country: Crime, and in huge amounts.

38 posted on 03/28/2006 8:04:39 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Mel Gibson

I agree with Teddy's quote 100 percent. It is fitting that his image should be enshrined on Mount Rushmore. We need another leader like him.


39 posted on 03/28/2006 8:11:34 AM PST by TexasRepublic (North American distributor for Mohammed Urinals. Franchises available.)
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To: clawrence3
clawrence3 wrote:
Loyalty to one's country has indeed "changed" - we do things differently - we don't start Civil Wars over slavery anymore. The 19th Amendment was just another example of a different way we did things back then, that's all. I would not mind repealing the 19th Amendment BTW.

REPLY:

I wouldn't be to hasty about the civil war comment.

The civil war this time may be between the illegals and concerned citizens.

There are a lot of revolutionists out there that would like nothing more than a full scale upheaval.

Especially since the federal, state and local governments will not enforce the law.
40 posted on 03/28/2006 8:18:18 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: carrier-aviator

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/TR%20Web%20Book/TR_CD_to_HTML280.html


41 posted on 03/28/2006 9:33:54 AM PST by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: Dane

"Huh and President Bush yesterday said that new immigrants should learn English.

Poor Louie dobbs, he's losing his cash cow and he knows it."

__________________________________________________________

Yea, GWB also said we're a nation of "laws" yet there were a few hundred thousand illegals in the streets of LA over the weekend and no arrests were made by ICE.

Go figure.


42 posted on 03/28/2006 9:34:03 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Mel Gibson
..I'll say it again--without assimilation, there will be Balkanization, which will lead to social disintegration...
43 posted on 03/28/2006 10:29:37 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Dane
Huh and President Bush yesterday said that new immigrants should learn English.

Yes, and if he meant it, he would repeal Clinton's executive order to make other language so available.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 13166 IMPROVING ACCESS TO SERVICES FOR PERSONS WITH LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and to improve access to federally conducted and federally assisted programs and activities for persons who, as a result of national origin, are limited in their English proficiency (LEP), it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Goals. The Federal Government provides and funds an array of services that can be made accessible to otherwise eligible persons who are not proficient in the English language. The Federal Government is committed to improving the accessibility of these services to eligible LEP persons, a goal that reinforces its equally important commitment to promoting programs and activities designed to help individuals learn English. To this end, each Federal agency shall examine the services it provides and develop and implement a system by which LEP persons can meaningfully access those services consistent with, and without unduly burdening, the fundamental mission of the agency. Each Federal agency shall also work to ensure that recipients of Federal financial assistance (recipients) provide meaningful access to their LEP applicants and beneficiaries.(snip)

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/cor/Pubs/eolep.htm

44 posted on 03/28/2006 10:36:25 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Dane
"Huh and President Bush yesterday said that new immigrants should learn English."

And El Presidente Arbusto wants to grant legal status to CRIMINALS and let their CRIMINAL enablers of 'scot-free'.

In this position, he is openly defiant of the will and concerns of 70% of American citizens, and in deriliciton of his oath of office. He is also running directly afoul of the part of his constituency who did the most to place him in office.

45 posted on 03/28/2006 3:53:15 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Mel Gibson

No, New York City Ping list?


46 posted on 03/28/2006 3:54:48 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: WalterSkinner
What's the value of American citizenship?

Bush recently stated (not my words but his), Mi casa blanco es su casa blanco. Translation: My White House is your White House.

Who is representing the interests of the United States?

47 posted on 03/30/2006 7:44:41 AM PST by Mel Gibson (Read the book, "Hatred's Kingdom" by Dore Gold)
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To: sunbeamtiger

Just to inform you - Teddy Roosevelt died in 1919 not 1918 as you wrote.


48 posted on 04/01/2006 7:39:02 AM PST by Pcamp
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To: TexasRepublic

Teddy Rossevelt's face is on Mount Rushmore already.


49 posted on 04/01/2006 7:48:39 AM PST by Pcamp
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To: clawrence3

You're right - much has changed - but the fact that the country is the UNITED States of America has not - one country, one language, one allegiance, one flag. It is a privilege to become an American citizen. To become an American citizen it is my DUTY to learn the language, laws and customs of my new country. Just as if I decided I was going to live and become a citizen of Spain - I would learn the language, laws and customs - I would not expect everyone to cater to me because I didn't respect my new country enough to become a full citizen.


50 posted on 04/01/2006 7:55:11 AM PST by Pcamp
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