Posted on 03/28/2006 12:42:39 PM PST by Moose4
What's a "rave" party?
ANd the guys that were shot in this house were 32, 26, 22, and 21 respectively. What parent lets teenage girls party with men this age?
Yep. So not only did this girl have a 3:00 am curfew...she was breaking it. And her parents were probably asleep in bed, unknowing.
When I was 15, I had told my parents I'd be home from a school-sponsored thing (a fund-raising carwash) at about 4:30 in the afternoon. I got home just after 6:00 that same afternoon. Oh, did I get screamed at. At 15. For being an hour and a half late on a Saturday afternoon.
And these parents are letting their 14-year-old stay out until 3 in the morning? "Oh, but she was so mature," they'd probably say. Yeah, well, she's dead now.
}:-)4
>Wacko, left-wing, liberal-demokkkRAT-controlled Seattle.
>Explains a lot.
"No man! Like, guns kill people!"
/sarc
""Kyle and Kelley Moore said they allowed their 14-year-old daughter, Melissa, to go to raves as long she came home by her 3 a.m. curfew."
The killings took place at 7:00 am, so she had skipped curfew, the article sure gives loving attention to the weapons he brought, if you keep scrolling down they even give pictures and specs.
2112? What's that signify?
Yes, the shootings were at 7:05 AM. Apparently the girl had broken her already idiotic "curfew" by over 4 hours and no one had made any attempt to track her down anyway.
I agree - the girl was not culpable - but the parents certainly are.
Telling a 14 year old girl that she is free to attend parties where people do drugs and that she can stay out until 3 A.M. is tantamount telling her: "You have zero value to me and I don't much care if you live or die."
They should be prosecuted for neglect.
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Maybe the parents thought they were being tolerant and generous? From what I've heard of being a parent, it rips at their souls to see their child suffer.
Rules never made sense to me as a kid, especially since they seemed arbitrary. But if rules are explained in the context of love and protection, they would be easier to take.
And so sadly, they got it. My own daughter is 21 and is now too old for me to set curfews. She's reasonable, fortunately. But I encourage her that there's not usually a good enough reason to be out after midnight in proportion to the risk. My fear is that she will have car trouble... then further trouble.
You might have been yelled out for staying out late on a Saturday afternoon, but you're alive now, too. There's no guarantees about life and death, but good sense and reasonable behavior can help tip the probability of a longer and happier life your way.
I'm a parent and I would be absolutely derelict in my duty if I allowed either of my daughters to be out at a party where people take drugs until 3 in the morning.
It has nothing to do with generosity or tolerance - a 14 year old is not capable of making mature decisions in these circumstances.
Just because we can't prosecute the shooter? Yeah, I'm sure these parents haven't quite lost enough. They'll feel much worse in jail. That'll fix 'em, and sure be a lesson to... to... somebody...?
Yeesh.
I wish I had that kind of curfew when I was in high school. I could have really done some damage!
My oldest is also 21. She has her own place now and so far so good (keeping fingers crossed)
They certainly didn't parent like they had something to lose. A 3am curfew for a 14yo girl? Nuts! My 17 yo son has a midnite curfew. Period. I value his well-being and safety more than his social life.
He may have been on acid or some other drugs (at a rave, no) combined with the ravers being dressed in "zombie" costume distanced him from reality.
He might also have been a nutcase from day one. Tough to say.
No, because they committed neglect.
And, if convicted, it would send a message.
They'll feel much worse in jail.
They probably will, since they don't appear to have very well-developed consciences.
When you're a parent you'll understand exactly how egregious their conduct here was.
Even if I was such a bad parent that I let my daughter stay out to 3 am, I would have been out looking at for her when she was still not home at 7 am.
they basically took the attitude of: "Our 14 year old daughter never made it home last night. C'est la vie. Maybe I'll have pancakes for breakfast."
Methinks Mr. Huff was a Priest of the Temple of Syrinx.
Justin Schwartz was from Alaska
Probably the same thing America does to be hated so much by the rest of the world. /sarc off
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