Tancredo Statement on Immigration Bill

http://tancredo.house.gov/press/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1170 ^

[Fledermaus]

Hey illegals, it's NOT stolen land OR your homeland! We won it fair and square in the Mexican/American war!

Care for a rematch? ;-)

[NJ_gent]

"Dane, are you pleased with the Senate Judiciary Committee's bill?"

Dane thinks that "what a temporary worker program would do is help relieve pressure on the border. It will allow our law enforcement officials and Border Patrol agents to focus on those who are coming here for the wrong reasons, the criminals and the drug dealers and the terrorists,"

Dane also thinks that "any immigration bill ought to make sure that we're ... able to secure the borders"

And "part of securing the borders requires a guest-worker program ... In other words, the two go hand-in-hand."

And "part of a rational worker program is -- say you're here on a temporary basis, and if you choose to be a citizen, or want to be a citizen, you get in line... It's essential that we not have automatic amnesty or legality."

For more, see Dane's employer's website.

:-)

[Mojave]

We won it fair and square in the Mexican/American war!

And we honored the many Spanish land grants and preserved their title claims.

[Nuc1]

True enough Bob is pretty sharp and well connected. It all falls back to the Senate and I don't think they have the party discipline to pull it off. I sure would love to be totally wrong about this.

[CowboyJay]

"It would do well to hit the demand side of this by hitting those who hire these invaders. Enough crippling fines and they would get the message. Can't be "wrist-slapping" fines; no, no. It's gotta be something heavy, like 500,000 dollars PER ILLEGAL working for them."

HR 4437 would make hiring illegals punishable by fines AND jail time. It also makes it a felony to use falsified information for obtaining entitlements. If passed, I'm guessing 75% of the illegals here now would self-deport. It's the best shot we have to get the problem fixed, and it still has a good shot at passing, despite what the Daniac says.

www.congress.org

[Ben Ficklin]

The key phrase in Tancredo's press release is in the last paragraph.

"...getting a reform bill to the President's desk this year"

"This year" means after the November elections. Which means that you will be hearing a lot of Billy Bad Ass rhetoric from the House, and after the elections it is going to be wham bam thank you ma'm.

The fix is in.

[Nuc1]

"My anger is boiling over and I don't have to go march before t.v. cameras to vent it. I've never been this pissed off with my representatives for not having the balls to stop this crap."

I couldn't agree more. This is what we get for being a kind and decent people. About 20 years past the time to take the gloves off and get hard, real hard.

[CowboyJay]

"Chew on that one a while there Dane. I live in the district and I think he would win."

I live in Colorado too, and I'll bet good money on Tom winning whatever public office he runs for in this state.

More to the point; I can almost guarantee Tom would retire from the Federal government if HR 4437 passed.

Dane. If you really hate Tancredo so much, you should really be hacking for the passage of HR 4437 rather than against it.

[CowboyJay]

"I'm honestly starting to wonder if he hasn't been offered an enormous amount of money if he gets amnesty through Congress and into law..."

It's been promised to the RNC. Call or write Mehlman.

[CowboyJay]

"And we honored the many Spanish land grants and preserved their title claims."

And were rewarded in our leniency and deference by having Spain sink the Lusitania and having to fight the subsequent Spanish American War, which we also won.

[Mojave]

Yep. Any real property owners in California kept their titles. They even got to stay if they wanted to.

Nothing was stolen.

[wizardoz]

I submit that the security situation would be unchanged with any law likely to pass

True. They won't even enforce the laws already on the books...

[wizardoz]

Hey illegals, it's NOT stolen land OR your homeland! We won it fair and square in the Mexican/American war!

I'm lousy at history, but I did some quick cliff-notes style web surfing and I also gather that the whole mess started when Mexico tried to keep Texas even after signing the treaty with Santa Ana. Is that true? If so, the whole mess is definitely their own dang fault.

[Mojave]

http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/MOD/1848hidalgo.html

[MaineVoter2002]

http://www.wehategringos.com

[ARCADIA]

The president may think he has political capital

The President should be tried for treason. Not because of the listening/terrorist strategy he pursued, but for his unlawful refusal to secure our borders.

[StockAyatollah]

The United States Senate is a disgrace, they have come to believe they know better than we the unwashed, it has become a stable very badly in need of cleaning, the majority of the inhabitants are cowards and need to get real jobs, ESPECIALY McCain, Kennedy, Bidden, Boxer, Schumer, Clinton and Harry "the Putz" Reid.

Its ironic that the Senate was intended to level the political-power playing field for those in the less populated states. Instead, it has become a body of easily paid-off whores, who regularly stand in the way of any chance of real reform.

Consider a few things most conservatives would like to do in Washington: abolish the IRS, make social security voluntary, shut down the Dept. of Education, seriously reduce illegal immigration, etc. None of these ideas are even up for debate thanks to the Senate. We could possibly get 51% of the House populated with real conservatives. But we would also need 67 real conservative Senators. Right now we do not have even one.

We need to shut down the Senate. That would be 100 less scum-bag politicians to worry about.

[BlueStateDepression]

I am all for this being a campaign issue. Pubbies can come out of this with votes going their way or they can hand 08 and more to the dems.

I think the stakes over this are that high. Major swing high.

Add 10 million votes(or more) to the rolls. That is what this is about.

Pubbies need to do the right thing for all our sakes.

[Fledermaus]

Yes, after Texas won their independence from Mexico they petitioned to become a U.S. state. This made them a territory of the United States and Mexico tried to take it back.

That was a mistake since they then started a war with us and we beat the crap out of them taking Arizonz, New Mexico and California (which was still a disputed territory claimed by both after Spain was driven out). We were too nice by not taking their country completely and even paid them $25 million for that little boot on the southern border of AZ/NM called the Gadsen Purchase. We also dictated the terms of our observed border as the Rio Grande which was generous to Mexico.