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Republicans risk Hispanic support in border debate
Jackson News-Tribune - Jackson, WY, USA ^ | 28 March 2006 | John Whitesides

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:30:01 PM PST by Buddy B

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To: Buddy B

This is pure unadulterated propaganda absent of anything other than opinion.

Of all the polling I've seen, let alone discussions I have had with Hispanics, that community is split in least in half over this issue.

LEGAL Hispanics whether from generation upon generation born in this country OR LEGAL VISAS and or application to citizenship are just as (if not more) against amnesty.

Those who are ILLEGAL, those that have been born to/married to/have business interests tied up in ILLEGAL Immigrants are in opposition.

Go Figure. [sarcasm]

It's a damn lie meant to pit one group (Hispanics) against another (for amnesty backers usually White Euro descendants) to attempt to make this an ethnic/racial argument and inflame the half against amnesty into changing their minds. Once united in opposition, it would fall others wouldn't be too far behind in backing down for fear they'd be labeled bigots.

As well, I'm not going to state the bottom would fall out from the GOP support over immigration, that would be wrong. But a sizeable minority would. A few percentage points enough to swing a close election. But, then, the GOP doesn't seem to care about other pillars of their traditional support system right now as well so it's looking like discontent from all over the base could register soon. On Judges, on spending, On immigration, etc.


41 posted on 03/28/2006 8:08:34 PM PST by Soul Seeker ("The Republican Party is now principally moderate, if not liberal!" Arlen Specter (R-Pa))
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To: Buddy B
I guess that the political parties don't give a rat's arse for hardworking, lawabiding, taxpaying American citizens. There is something nasty in their polluted minds about citizenship nowdays. They have corrupted our most sacred rights as American Citizens.

They would rather cater and kowtow to a bunch of lawbreaking illegal aliens while impugning the character and honor of American Citizens as if we cannot hold a candle to the worthiness and virtue of the illegal alien invaders even though many of our ancestors, relatives and selves have fought proudly to defend and protect our country and Constitution and uphold and further the American traditions that have become our way of life.

42 posted on 03/28/2006 8:10:39 PM PST by harpo11 (US Goverrnment, by the illegal alien, for the illegal alien and of the illegal alien& screw citizens)
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To: byteback

I am not a single issue voter and I have supported President Bush through thick and thin, but these last few days have me looking over my options. Don't come looking to blame me when our leadership has fumbled away every advantage WE HANDED TO THEM.


45 posted on 03/28/2006 8:20:01 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: Buddy B

Before this debate is over, Democrats who support the continued immigration of illegals and amnesty for the illegals in our presence may well face the retribution of thousands of democrat defections. If this debate continues for at least two weeks, we may see a split in the democrat party more than offseting any split among the republicans.


46 posted on 03/28/2006 8:20:40 PM PST by brydic1
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To: eddiebear

No, Rossi lost because the Courts and the Democratic Party stole the election by manufacturing ballots. Let's put the blame where it belongs. On the Theives themselves.

Had the win been bigger, they *probably* wouldn't have been able to do that but...it's Lib infested and I wouldn't put it past them to dig up 100,000 if that's what they needed.

BTW, some people didn't vote because they didn't think it would make a difference. As in, the vote wouldn't be close and the Dem would win. That's different then sitting an election out in protest. Actually, Rossi got far closer than Bush did to taking this state. Which means he got help from some conservative Dems as well.

I still refuse to acknowledge that woman is my Governor.


47 posted on 03/28/2006 8:25:57 PM PST by Soul Seeker ("The Republican Party is now principally moderate, if not liberal!" Arlen Specter (R-Pa))
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To: Buddy B
"Pete Wilson set back the Republican Party in California," said Daniel Griswold, a trade and immigration expert at the conservative Cato Institute think tank.

CATO isn't "conservative". CATO is libertarian.

48 posted on 03/28/2006 8:27:17 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Buddy B

Every time the supporters of illegal immigrants open their mouths stating that we need illegal aliens to do the jobs that americans are by implication unwilling or too lazy to do we grow support for the position of building a secure border and requiring illegals to repatriate prior to application for citizenship. Democrats will be particularly incensed by these oft repeated slanderous statements against americans workers.


49 posted on 03/28/2006 8:29:07 PM PST by brydic1
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To: brydic1
"Before this debate is over, Democrats who support the continued immigration of illegals and amnesty for the illegals in our presence may well face the retribution of thousands of democrat defections. If this debate continues for at least two weeks, we may see a split in the democrat party more than offseting any split among the republicans."

I think you have a good point there....the issue is huge!

50 posted on 03/28/2006 8:31:11 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Gordongekko909

How about the risk to the native born legal citizen vote if they do nothing? Is that worth discussing.


51 posted on 03/28/2006 8:35:29 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster; dennisw
Yeah, the Aztlaners will all vote Republican, if only we appease them with guest worker amnesty.

Montebello High Scool, LA, March 27, 2006. That is the tall flagpole over the entire school.


53 posted on 03/28/2006 8:41:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: cripplecreek
hispanics.... what a joke. the illegal aliens CAN'T vote... or shouldn't except of course in Cali...

but "hispanic" or AMERICANS of hispanic decent hate people lumping them with illegal nipple suckling immigrants... most are hard working and have EARNED their citizenship by service to this country like ALL other immigrants before: Italians, Germans, Irish, Jews etc...

This is just a ploy by dems and liberals to get another "minority" group balkanized into sucking at the government nipple. LULAC represents the hispanics like NAACP represents all blacks. they are just the race pimps that want to freeload on the democrats by providing votes. legal and illegal.

despicable parasites, the lot of them.

54 posted on 03/28/2006 8:44:42 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: claudiustg
I wasn't a fan of Reagan's support for and signature of a true amnesty bill in 1986. This didn't cause me to want to jump ship though. It just seems that whanever there is a contentious issue some people's first reaction is to walk away from all other fights.

Think Alito and Bader-Ginsberg. Which would you want to be closer to the next SCOTUS nominee?

55 posted on 03/28/2006 8:45:30 PM PST by byteback
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To: cripplecreek
In my experience with American Hispanics, the GOP risks alienating them if They don't do more to secure the border.

My apprentice today approach me and sez..."hey Hoss, I sure hope they will cut it out today, because they make me look bad; the stinking, stupid Mexicans are hanging themselves by the rope, with this nonsense march!

Luis is an American Citizen from Mexican heritage!

56 posted on 03/28/2006 8:51:32 PM PST by danmar ("Reason obeys itself,and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it....... Thomas Paine)
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To: Deconstructionist
In fact, John Sweeney of the AFL-CIO just came out against the guest worker program.

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/race_industry/laraza_contributors.html

57 posted on 03/28/2006 8:56:55 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Trout-Mouth

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/race_industry/laraza_contributors.html


58 posted on 03/28/2006 8:57:45 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: cripplecreek; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...


Repeat the Lie Ping!

In my experience with American hispanics, the GOP risks alienating them if They don't do more to secure the border.

Bears repeating. That matches my experience so far. Remember the numbers for Hispanics who voted for Prop 200 in Arizona.

59 posted on 03/28/2006 8:57:49 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: byteback

If you want to have conservatives with you next election, you'd be better off trying to convince our leaders not to sell us out, than trying to convince us we should just suck up.


60 posted on 03/28/2006 8:58:02 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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