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Republicans risk Hispanic support in border debate
Jackson News-Tribune - Jackson, WY, USA ^ | 28 March 2006 | John Whitesides

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:30:01 PM PST by Buddy B

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To: HiJinx

Yep, 47% if I recall.


61 posted on 03/28/2006 8:59:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Buddy B

Republicans are fools to think they'll get the "hispanic" vote...That won't ever happen even with unconditional amnesty.


62 posted on 03/28/2006 9:02:26 PM PST by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
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To: FreeReign

What's the difference between conservative and libertarian in your opinion?


63 posted on 03/28/2006 9:03:56 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: holyscroller

Since most elections are determined by a small percentage, a determined group willing to place a special interest above all else can exercise a disproportionate influence. A prime example is the abortion issue where many people opposed to the issue will still vote for a pro-abortion candidate because of other issues, but almost no one who supports abortion will vote for a pro-life candidate for any reason. Likewise, if and when a core group of voters can convince their elected representatives that real border control is the single controlling issue in determining their vote, we will see action, but probably not before then. This would mean support for a single issue in each race, not for party or philosophical control.


64 posted on 03/28/2006 9:04:56 PM PST by etcb
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To: Buddy B
Republican Party that could see its recent gains among Hispanics wiped out

How nice that they care more about the hispanic vote than my vote.

"The Republican base is not going to abandon the party over immigration.

Don't count on that. I've jumped off the ship and am paddling furiously away from it.
65 posted on 03/28/2006 9:06:00 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: dirtboy
You can "LMAO" about Pat Buchanan all you want, dirtboy, but he was a big part of Bush1 not getting a second term. And how about Perot. You want to LMAO about him too? He did even more to help Clinton beat Bush and then Dole.

A split base is deadly for either party. Nader hurt Gore, probably costing him the election. In the tight races we've seen a 1% insurgency is all it takes to put you in the loser column.

The Republicans should be scared, very scared, of this issue if it pisses off the base. Tom Trancredo might not have a shot at being the Republican nominee for President, but he holds that nominees fate in his hands. (I think he's starting to know it too.)

66 posted on 03/28/2006 9:12:16 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: peyton randolph

Also, several districts in California (San Francisco for one) are planning/trying to make it legal for illegals to vote in school board elections.


67 posted on 03/28/2006 9:15:59 PM PST by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Buddy B
In my humble opinion, the Republicans had better "risk non-Hispanic" support if they desire to remain in office.

The last time I noticed, the non-Hispanics, voters and non-voters amount to a larger percentage of Americans than do the Hispanics, at least for this week.

68 posted on 03/28/2006 9:32:50 PM PST by zerosix
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To: Buddy B

More rat lies. A majority of legal hispanics want stricter border/immigration control too.


69 posted on 03/28/2006 9:47:30 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: Buddy B
The risk of alienating Hispanics is much greater than the risk of turning off conservatives, Griswold said. He noted Republicans who supported guest worker programs like Reps. Jeff Flake and Jim Kolbe in Arizona and Chris Cannon in Utah have survived primary challenges from anti-immigration opponents.

Hispanic voters risk having their children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren digging in garbage heaps for food if they don't stop their support of the illegal hoards. Everything they came here to escape is right behind them, and us, if they don't wise up.

Back in the 1970's Planned Parenthood called for "zero population growth". People around the world were told to have no more than two children (my husband and I had one) or we risk overpopulation. The third world countries paid no heed. Now, Americans are told that because we stopped having children our country has to let illegal immigrants in. This just isn't right. I would rather be paying for parks, schools, hospitals... for my children/grandchildren not a bunch of lawbreakers. And you can bet I'm telling Bush just that.

70 posted on 03/28/2006 10:23:58 PM PST by Razz Barry
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To: Buddy B
I posted this comment on a blog about this same article. The questions *don't* apply here:

Did you bother doing a bit of research into Dan Griswold's other thoughts? I believe he is for open borders. As in, literally open borders.

Would Arizona like to give Dan Griswold his wish?

Did you know that Griswold was the inspiration for Bush's "guest" worker scheme?

Did you know that that scheme was designed to allow "guests" to take *any* sort of job? As in *any", not just picking strawberries. Specifically mentioned were teachers and nurses.

Did you know that Cannon's brother is head of the Utah GOP?

Did you know that Chris Cannon's opponent came close, despite having much less money than Cannon?

And, of course, you're probably aware of the Prop. 200 exit polls showing IIRC 46% of Hispanics voting for it.

71 posted on 03/28/2006 10:24:02 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: Razz Barry
"Back in the 1970's Planned Parenthood called for "zero population growth". People around the world were told to have no more than two children (my husband and I had one) or we risk overpopulation. The third world countries paid no heed. Now, Americans are told that because we stopped having children our country has to let illegal immigrants in."

Bingo! You're absolutely right. I had forgotten about that, but you just hit the nail on the head!

72 posted on 03/28/2006 10:52:38 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: holyscroller
Bingo! You're absolutely right. I had forgotten about that, but you just hit the nail on the head!

It makes me so angry I sometimes have to just sit down and cry about it.

You know, I guess you could say we also aborted our future workforce. I think abortion was made legal in 1972.

73 posted on 03/28/2006 11:06:55 PM PST by Razz Barry
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To: brydic1

I have always wondered why this is always about republicans. What about the democrats? The unions are being killed by this issue, Why don't they speak up?


74 posted on 03/28/2006 11:19:59 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: Travis McGee

Los primativos


75 posted on 03/29/2006 12:55:10 AM PST by dennisw (____A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject- W Churchill___)
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To: Jack Black
You can "LMAO" about Pat Buchanan all you want, dirtboy,

Please re-read the post. I didn't say LMAO, the other person did.

The Republicans should be scared, very scared, of this issue if it pisses off the base.

The moderate and liberal Republicans need to realize they can splinter the party over this and vote accordingly.

76 posted on 03/29/2006 4:28:16 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: dirtboy
Please re-read the post. I didn't say LMAO, the other person did.

Sorry, dirtboy. My apologies.

77 posted on 03/29/2006 6:47:29 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Razz Barry
Now, Americans are told that because we stopped having children our country has to let illegal immigrants in.

Good point.

78 posted on 03/29/2006 6:51:19 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Travis McGee
Those pictures make my blood boil!!!

The GOP is worried about the Hispanic, aka ILLEGAL vote? They should be worried about MY vote. WTH is going on here? The first candidate who swears to cut benefits off and enforce the laws against illegal immigration and employment will WIN the election.

The time for "civil debate" is up. President Bush, take care of your Country. We are in distress.

sw

79 posted on 03/29/2006 6:59:23 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Buddy B

Cheap labor capitol of WY. They are voting their Raza not issues.


80 posted on 03/29/2006 8:39:31 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid!)
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