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Fight the mobile phone invasion at 30,000ft
Financial Times ^ | 3/28/2006 | Jagdish Bhagwati

Posted on 03/29/2006 7:39:52 AM PST by tellw

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To: stuartcr

I have never advocated stopping anyone from talking or using their phone, merely asking that they do so in moderation without telling everyone within 300 feet with their high volume.


121 posted on 03/29/2006 10:04:14 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: Mamzelle

At least the cell phone talkers go away after a bit of time (if you're lucky), but the music everywhere is ALWAYS there!

Once again, what's wrong with a little silence? (I'm not talking to you, just generally).

People are afraid to be alone or quiet because they might actually have to think about something and confront themselves.


122 posted on 03/29/2006 10:10:18 AM PST by garyhope (Simplicity is best in everything)
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To: texasbluebell

Yeah, but just not the ones pictured there. Those are E.A.R. Classics, or similar, otherwise known as the "big yellow cylinders." They work really well but are not very comfortable, due to their size, relative stiffness and open cell foam. I'd suggest any of the plugs with a smooth outer coating, and preferably ones made of a very soft foam - E.A.R. "EARSofts" or Howard Leight "Laser Lites" are very good. I always wear foam earplugs when riding my motorcycle (for the wind noise, not the engine, which is not that loud) and so have had the opportunity to try quite a few different types. Some people have unusually large ear canals and may need a larger diameter plug for effective sealing. EARSofts and EARSoft Neons are available in two sizes.

I got myself a set of custom-moulded silicone earplug speakers for use while riding, flying, etc. With all the external noise (or at least 20 dB(A)) blocked out you can enjoy listening to music from a personal player at a reasonable level that won't harm your hearing.


123 posted on 03/29/2006 10:12:39 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: Revolting cat!

"My theory is that people nowadays are afraid of silence, afraid of being left with their own thoughts. Might get depressed. Need a distraction. Dang it, you did get me started!"

You're absolutely right. I've said this to myself and others. You can "distract" your life away and wind up with nothing. People are afraid of solitude and silence.


124 posted on 03/29/2006 10:13:43 AM PST by garyhope (Simplicity is best in everything)
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To: safisoft

From your lips to Mineta's ears...


125 posted on 03/29/2006 10:15:57 AM PST by null and void (Perhaps hating America is for those for whom hating Jews just isn't enough. - Philippe Roger)
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To: garyhope
Ubiquitous music can be maddening. I can't shop at Books a Million because of the horrid music (a lot of improv)--can't get a cup of coffee and browse. I even wrote the management, and talked to the help, who agreed. (It was the only bookstore for miles) The Christmas music they choose is particularly awful.

Sounds like you might need a change of scene--a rural sojourn. A lot of the reason I'm where I am is to get away from the cacaphony.

126 posted on 03/29/2006 10:28:20 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: TommyDale

OK


127 posted on 03/29/2006 10:42:06 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Mamzelle

I've written Starbuck's, Barnes and Noble, etc., letters to ask that they NOT have constant "music" or at least turn it down or have customer controlled volume or off switches for the music, but they wrote back and said their customers "preferred" having music. What it's about is selling CD's.

Silence is an alien concept to many people. I've actually thought about moving into the deep country to escape the constant noise.

I don't think I'm weird or paranoid either. I do think excessive and constant noise drives people insane and promotes violence. Ever lived near a house with dogs that bark endlessly and every whisp of wind or leaf rattle? Should you shoot the dogs or their owners first?

I've read of a group that says there's only a few truly quiet places left in the world.


128 posted on 03/29/2006 10:44:57 AM PST by garyhope (Simplicity is best in everything)
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To: Mamzelle

I never thought I'd miss Muzak with its elevator versions of mellow pop hits (I still remember the great orchestral interpretations of the Beatles that Muzak played.) The difference nowadays? It's no longer soft instrumental music, it's all vocal. Words, words, words to combat the silence and thoughts people seem to fear. In fifteen minutes I'm going to a yoga class with a fantastic teacher, who, unfortunately, thinks he has to play CDs of some annoying new age garbage throughout. It's all instrumental, or idiotic chanting, and totally unnecessary.


129 posted on 03/29/2006 10:52:20 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Blueflag
Did Todd Beamer use his cell phone at 10,000 feet?

Maybe that's what caused the plane to crash. (/extremely poor taste humor)

130 posted on 03/29/2006 10:52:42 AM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: garyhope
I agree that the hard of hearing may have an advantage. I knew a new mother who had a hearing aid and sometimes "turned down the volume" when the kid racket got too much. I confess to some envy. I'm also not one who can tune out things well, and have not improved at it with time, either. When I'm in the woods walking I notice how much better my hearing is than my vision--it could be a sensitivity.

I've heard good things about those Bose headphones (chiefly from frequent air travellers). If you live and like the city, you might look at them. They are expensive--everything Bose is. I think they'd also be good for tuning out chatty seatmates (I'd rather have a cellphone user next to me than some of the strangers who have used me as a captive audience.)

131 posted on 03/29/2006 10:57:55 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: LIConFem

You haven't been around me, I didn't ignore.


132 posted on 03/29/2006 10:58:59 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (More people died in Ted Kennedy's car than hunting with Dick Cheney.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I don't doubt that. But it's beside the point.


133 posted on 03/29/2006 11:00:17 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: safisoft

Before boarding El Al for my trip to Israel, I asked the interviewer if he wanted me to turn on my video cam, he looked amused.


134 posted on 03/29/2006 11:01:03 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (More people died in Ted Kennedy's car than hunting with Dick Cheney.)
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To: LIConFem

LOL we are obviously at the point where we agree to disagree.


135 posted on 03/29/2006 11:02:46 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (More people died in Ted Kennedy's car than hunting with Dick Cheney.)
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To: tellw
The last thing in the world we need is to ruin about the 'last place' in the world where you can have a semblence of 'peace and quiet' without someone shouting meaningless drivel into a cellphone.

With the total lack of amenities nowdays in airline travel--freedom from the annoyance of someone blabbing loudly into a cell phone--is about the last creature comfort left when flying.

JUST SAY NO!

136 posted on 03/29/2006 11:05:42 AM PST by stockstrader
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Ya think?? ;o)


137 posted on 03/29/2006 11:10:35 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Revolting cat!

It is worth repeating at this point the theories that Ford had come up with, on his first encounter with human beings, to account for their peculiar habit of continually stating and restating the very very obvious, as it 'It's a nice day," or "You're very tall," or "So this is it, we're going to die."

His first theory was that if human beings didn't keep exercising their lips, their mouths probably seized up.

After a few months of observation he had come up with a second theory, which was this - "If human beings don't keep exercising their lips, their brains start working."

-Douglas Adams, "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe"


138 posted on 03/29/2006 11:16:05 AM PST by Starter
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To: Prince Caspian

I suppose somebody had to say it...


139 posted on 03/29/2006 11:22:32 AM PST by null and void (Perhaps hating America is for those for whom hating Jews just isn't enough. - Philippe Roger)
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To: tellw

As long as the airlines have a rule that the cell phone user must hang up if someone objects, I don't have a problem with using them. I just don't want my sleep disturbed by someone yelling into their phone.


140 posted on 03/29/2006 11:27:48 AM PST by TopDog2 (Onward Christian soldiers...)
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